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So we sat down, we had a few beers, we'd been

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playing a few hours, and the six of us, remember,

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sat around this board. There's a door to get

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to the bottom of the stairs, there's a door to

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get to the kitchen, which were both closed at

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the time, and then there's this alcove in the

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far corner, and this massive bay window that

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just dominates the front room, like a huge, huge

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bay window. So we're all sat around, we're about

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two hours into the game, maybe two, three hours

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into the game, and one of the guys... I'm looking

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at him. This is the bit I don't get about this

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story. I'm looking at him across the circle from

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me as we're playing. He looks over his shoulder

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and then yelps and like he was petrified of something

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and tumbles towards me across the board, smashing

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everyone's glasses, bottles. He sort of bowled

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past me into the corner and he sat down with

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his back against the wall with his arms tucked

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around his legs. And he was in shock. Something

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had just absolutely petrified him. And he wasn't

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messing about either. This was serious. I was

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trying to talk to him. He couldn't get his words

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out to tell me what had happened. What's happened?

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And he went, did you not see her? I said, see

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who? He went, the lady. There was a lady sat

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on an invisible chair in the corner of the room,

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just staring at me. Hello, Liam. How are you?

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And thank you for joining us on the podcast this

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week. Thank you for having me, guys. Great to

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be here. No, I've been really excited about this

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one Especially after seeing your talk at spook

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and spirit a couple of weeks ago now or three

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weeks ago Yeah, and The story is fascinating

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stories absolutely fascinating. So What we like

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to do is we're when when a guest comes on like

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to sort of have a little bit of history about

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a brief history of you Any sort of paranormal

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bits of growing up and really how you got away

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like to today basically Okay over to you Fantastic.

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Okay. So For those who've read I brought a couple

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of books out in the paranormal world I've ended

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up in the in the mixture of this whole lovable

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paranormal community, which is great. Love it

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but it's kind of taking up my life for the past

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few years and It was Halloween 2023, my first

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book came out, The Lady in the Bay Window. That's

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the book right there. Amazon bestseller. What

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the book was all about was, my mom was very poorly,

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so she had a very rare form of breast cancer,

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bless her. And about two years into her treatments,

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I... I was doing loads of sponsored dog walks

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and doing anything I could just to raise some

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money. I think if you've had anybody in your

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family that's had or been touched by cancer,

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you just try and help out where you can. And

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for me, that was let's try and raise some money

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for Cancer Research UK. So I was doing really

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well. I think I'd raised nigh on 3 ,000 pounds.

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And then I slipped and damaged my knee, ended

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up having a knee operation. And when that happened,

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I got into talking to a couple of my friends,

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one of which who always comes round to my house.

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He used to live here. I'm actually sat in the

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room that he used to rent in my house and he's

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seen this old lady. He's seen the old lady of

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the house. I haven't seen her by the way. There

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have been six different people, seven different

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sightings of this old lady that they all describe

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the same. Sort of 70s, 80 year old, grey, permed

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hair, dark cardigan, white blouse. They all describe

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her the same way in that she's got quite a piercing

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stare and I think the funny thing for me is I

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moved into this house at 19 years old, a fully

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fledged skeptic. Nothing had ever happened to

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me before I moved in here. And the sighting started

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about a week before I moved in. But fast forward

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to 2022, and a friend who lived here for three

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or four years rented a room in his mid 20s. He

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came into the house and said, there's anything

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weird happened lately and that's his first thing

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every time he always comes in the house he says

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anything weird happened anything paranormal because

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things have happened to him here and i started

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telling the story about some american coins that

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we found in the house um over a number of days

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and do you want me to tell you the story yeah

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i'm going to tell you what happened yeah absolutely

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so this was crikey going back like i say to 2022

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It was a normal Friday night in the house. I've

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lived here now 21 years, so what we say, 17 years

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at the time. I've gone to go to bed. I live with

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my wife and son now, but he wasn't born at the

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time. But I'd gone to walk upstairs on that Friday

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night. My wife had just gone to bed. I walked

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in the bedroom, started getting undressed, and

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I looked down and we're quite neat freaks. So

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we don't have anything lying around anywhere.

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and there was something shiny in the middle of

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the carpet, and it caught my eye. So I bent down

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and picked it up, and it was an American one

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cent piece. So I turned it over, looked at the

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date on it, and the only reason I did that is

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because so many things have happened in this

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house that are weird. I document them. I document

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every single thing that happens, times, dates,

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temperatures, what I was doing that day in the

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notes on my phone. And I documented it down,

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put it in my bedside drawer, and I went to bed

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that night, didn't really think much of it. And

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these things can get caught in UK circulation.

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They look very much like pennies. And I'm quite

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a skeptical person. So didn't think much of it.

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Put it in the drawer. That's that. Saturday night.

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Similar sort of thing. My wife's just gone to

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bed just before me. This is the night after the

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first night of finding the coin. I've walked

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into the bedroom and what appeared to be the

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same spot on the floor right in the middle of

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the carpet at my side of the bed was something

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shiny. I went down and picked it up. It's an

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American one cent coin. It's dated the same day,

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2012. And I checked in the top drawer, my sock

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drawer. There weren't any other coins in there.

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I emptied out the socks. There was no more coins

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in there. So I assumed it was the same one. And

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I sort of just said to my wife as I got in bed,

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and I put it back in my bedside drawer, top bedside

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table drawer, and just said to her, that's a

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bit strange. So that's two nights on the bench.

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I found a coin, an American coin on the floor.

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And she's not a practical joker. If anything

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happens in our house, it intrigues me. I go towards

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it. she runs the other way. She's not into the

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spooky things and paranormal things that go on

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in the house. So that's the second night. The

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Sunday night, I was a little bit creeped out

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by it because I thought I don't want this to

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happen again tonight. So I went round the house

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with a Hoover late on on that Sunday night and

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Hoovered everywhere. There's nothing on the carpet

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anywhere. My wife went to bed. I sort of joked

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with her, I hope I don't find a coin in the bedroom

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again. And then... I went up to bed a bit after

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her because I actually stopped up with the dogs

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and watched something on the telly. And probably

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half an hour, maybe an hour, I walked upstairs.

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As I walked up the staircase, in the center of

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the staircase was an American warm sink coin.

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I sort of shook my head, bent down, picked it

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up. You've got to be joking. I walked into the

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bedroom. I looked at the day, it was 2012. I

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checked my drawer. The coin wasn't there. You

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assume it's got to be the same one. And I woke

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my wife up and said, it's happened again. This

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is the third, and she just sort of, she was asleep.

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I'd woke her up, which is not ideal waking your

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wife up to tell that you're finding coins in

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your house. But she sort of snatched it off me

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and said, just give it here. And she took it

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off me and she put it on her bedside table in

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the far side of the bedroom. And I heard the

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clink of the other side. So I know she'd put

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it there. And that night I went to bed Googling

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why am I finding American coins in my house?

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And the general consensus was spiritualist people

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on Google saying, somebody's coming to visit

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you from America. Now the strange thing was,

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and you could say this is just coincidence, again,

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using my logical side of my brain, a friend of

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mine who also used to rent this room that I'm

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in right now, which is now my office, he now

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lives in the States and had done for 10 years

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at this point. And he was coming back the next

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week to visit us for the first time. So again,

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could be coincidence, could be whatever, however

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you want to take that. But things got a little

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bit weirder after this. So that was Friday, Saturday,

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Sunday, I found this coin. On the Monday, I woke

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up out of bed, first thing in the morning, gone

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round the end of the bed and grabbed my towel

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off the radiator. I've not gone anywhere near

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my wife's side of the bed, I've just gone to

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the end of the bed, grabbed the towel, gone into

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the bathroom and I'm having a shower. Now if

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you can imagine our bathroom, it has a a glass

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panel it's a bath with a shower in it and it's

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got a glass panel and there's one door in and

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out of there so it's not a huge bathroom it's

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a three bed semi -detached house it's not a huge

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bathroom you wouldn't know if somebody else was

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in there with you put it that way but i'm having

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a shower i'm washing my hair and i'm genuinely

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i'm thinking about this coin as probably anybody

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would be because it's a bit strange it keeps

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reoccurring and then something hits me on the

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back of the leg on the back of the car but it

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hit me at quite a pace as in like a stinging

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pace and then I heard the noise at the bathtub

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and I knew it was going to be the coin and I

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bent down and picked it up and it was the coin

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somebody had thrown the coin at me in the bath

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but there was nobody in the bathroom now if you've

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read the books which it looks like Ash you might

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be on with it or maybe read a bit of the book

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so far that story is in that book it's near the

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end of the book because this is the reason that

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I wrote the book in the first place because after

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that had happened I ran back into the bedroom

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and said to my wife I was halfway through shampooing

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my hair I was excited that this had happened

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to me and not somebody else and I ran in and

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said I've just had a coin thrown at me in the

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bath it's that one cent American coin I put it

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on my bedside table I took some photos of it

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and I left it there and said don't move it I

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want to know if it moves and I'm just going to

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document if it moves and I had a work call that

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night I had to go back in the shower to finish

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off finish off doing my hair first of all but

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I had a work call after that working from home.

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My wife had gone to work and then I went to make

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a cup of tea downstairs and I phoned my dad to

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tell him what had happened this weekend all over

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the Friday Saturday Sunday one day and he said

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well where's the coin now and so it's upstairs

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on my bedside table so I walked upstairs and

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I'm on the phone to my dad with my right hand

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with my left hand I put my hand on the coin and

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I rolled it off the bedside table, it's like

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a mirrored bedside table and as I rolled it off

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there were two American one -cent coins and I

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know for a fact there were only one when I put

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that there but they were they must have been

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stacked on top of each other or I'd done some

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magic trick without knowing I have no idea but

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there were two coins now in my hand and I told

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my dad this and he said oh you you'll be a millionaire

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if this carries on um if only they were just

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one -cent coins but then Fast forward a week

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later to when my friend is there and I'm telling

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him this story that I've just told you. And I

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can see his face and he's just, he's getting

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paler and paler as I'm telling him the story.

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And I said, what's wrong? Are you okay? And he

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said, when, when did I come to yours last? Now

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the reason he was there on that day, he was fitting

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some lights on my driveway and he'd come round

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to do the second fix. The first fix he was there

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the Sunday before, which was the day before the

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coin got thrown at me in the shower. So as I'm

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sat telling him this, he turns around and says,

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well, if I was here last Sunday, I got home that

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night, I took off my Snickers work trousers and

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other work trousers with the pockets all the

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way down the side. And his wife checked all the

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pockets before she chucked them in the washing

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machine. He's renowned for leaving screws in

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there apparently. And she found one thing in

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one of the pockets and it was an American one

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cent piece. So it tied him into the story to

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the stage where he genuinely said to me, they'd

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better not have followed me home. And he couldn't

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wait to get home to get the coin and bring it

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back to my house. So I've now got the three coins

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at home. But as that all unfolded, I've got another

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friend who sat there sort of gobsmacked listening

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to all this story and just said, he's called

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Ian in the book. I've changed the names of everybody,

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including myself in the book. He just turned

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around and said, you should write about this

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stuff. I'd read it. And that's when I started

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writing that night. And since then I've done

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two books, two audio books myself, learning on

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the job. I did get somebody to produce the second

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one. They were better than me doing the first

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one, to be fair. And yeah, it's just gone from

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there, really. Crazy. That's, it's like, it's

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one of them where I just think there is no explanation

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for that. When you know there's no coin there

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and it's just been something thrown at you, especially.

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Yeah. The thing in the shower for me was absolutely

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fascinating because if you read the book, that

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first book was probably three or four stories

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that are about me. There's 25 stories in there,

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25 true stories about people that have lived

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here, people that have visited here, friends,

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family. And like I say, three or four of them

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are about me. So for something like that of that

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magnitude to happen to me, I was like, yes, it's

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happened to me finally. You talk to other people

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and you think you're mad. doing that but I'm

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really intrigued with what goes on here and I

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want to know what it's all about. I know you're

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excited that something else had happened to you.

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How are you feeling at this point when the first

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night, the second night, the third night, the

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throwing, the second coin and what does your

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wife think about it? Oh she's not a fan. I mentioned

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earlier she genuinely And she's actually sent

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me two different houses today. She sends me houses

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all the time on Facebook. If you look at my chat

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between me and the wife, it's just house, house,

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house, house, house. We have actually looked

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at moving. But the thing is with this house,

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I've lived here 21 years. It is my home. I do

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absolutely love it. We've spent about seven years

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renovating the place in total. So it's our home.

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We've made it a really nice family home. And

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we do love it, but there are times when weird

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stuff happens that, I mean, it's unsettled me

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a few times. There's been some things that have

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unsettled me, but yeah, my wife's a little bit

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more jumpy than me. Like I say, I'll run towards

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it and try and find out what it was, what's going

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on. And sometimes there's a logical explanation

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for things. As you guys all well know, you can

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say, well, actually it could have been there.

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Might not have been, but it could have been.

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But then other times it's blatantly obvious when

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you see something poltergeist activity -wise

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in front of your own eyes that can't happen.

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So have you done any historical research for

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the property itself to see what's been going

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on there? Yes. So after the first book, which

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Ray is now, I must tell you this actually, I

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pledged, we lost my mum back in May 23. And the

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book wasn't launched until October the 31st,

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2023. But I promised my mom in her dying days

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that I'd give all the money from the book to

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a charity of her choice. And it's just raised

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over 57 grand for Western Pied Cancer Charity.

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So it's done very well. But because it's done

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so well, it's gained a bit of a following through

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social media and stuff. And people were messaging

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saying, please write a second book, please write

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a second book. So I did. Now, I've been honest

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with everybody. I've done this book for me and

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my little family because it takes a long time

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to do these things and market them and be your

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own PR person, all that sort of stuff. It takes

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a long time to do it all. So I said, I'll do

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this one, but I'll do it for me and my little

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family. I've got a little boy now. Absolutely,

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absolutely. And the second one's done really,

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really well. But for the second one, a lot of

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people are asking if I could find out more about

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the history. They were intrigued about the story

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of the house and the land it fits on and all

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that sort of stuff. There was a lady called Joanne

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who was just a she was a fan of the first book.

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She got in contact and said, I'm a local historian.

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I have access to local archives, national archives,

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and I'm going to find out every single detail

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about everything in the house, the land. And

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she did. True to a word, really lovely lady.

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He invited her around to the house a couple of

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times. We sat down, we chatted. She was actually

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on Go Some Trend, did a 24 hour investigation

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here. And she was on the video for that. So they

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interviewed her on there. And some of the stuff

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that she found out was amazing. I mean, to this

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day, the detail she found out and photos. Photos

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I can't share with mine because we've still got

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surviving family members and things. But yeah,

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some of the detail that she got that I wasn't

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aware of and local. neighbors that I'd spoken

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to for the first book weren't aware of is unbelievable.

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To this stage she found a pool's win from the

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1970s of like £1 .70 or something that was in

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a local paper of the lady that used to live here.

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Like that's the sort of detail that she gradually

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went into, it's unbelievable. So yes, the second

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book has got a full chapter dedicated to all

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that, lives and deaths and who lived here, what

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years they lived here. all the stuff that we

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wouldn't be able to find out firsthand, or I

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wouldn't. So if we kind of take it back, and

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you mentioned that the first sighting was just

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before you moved in to the property back in other

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years ago. Kind of take us back to the original,

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kind of the origin of the lady in the bay window.

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Yeah, of course I can. So a friend of mine Craig

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who I worked with, a work colleague really, but

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we got on really well and we'd got a Christmas

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do, booked it in the middle of December and I

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just bought my house, this house. I actually

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bought another, this is where Strange Coincidence

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was coming, I actually bought another house and

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it fell through the day before I was supposed

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to be moving in and then this came on the market

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the next day. So I ended up buying this one and

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I'm glad I did now because you'll never find

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another one like it. But about a week before

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I moved in we were due to go on a works Christmas

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do and we were due to go to Hollywood Bowl So

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he was going to pick me up and these this was

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in the days I think I wrote in the book the days

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of fast and furious and people driving folks

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all courses with big wheels and body kits and

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blue lights and all that sort of stuff and I

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have one of them when I turned 17 as well with

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a 1 .2 litre engine in it and It sounded good

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so So yeah these were those days and I was living

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at my mum and dad's time and he pulled up outside

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the house I heard him pull up before I saw him

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out the window and then went out to the car and

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one of the first things he said was I hear you've

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bought a house around here and I went yeah it's

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just around the corner he said well let's go

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and have a look then before we go to Hollywood

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Bowl I'll drive up there you can show me. So

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we drove up to the top of the road now where

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I live it's quite a steep hill and we're sort

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of a few hours down but you have to look up at

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the house so it's although it's a hill going

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down the road, it's quite steep on the left -hand

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side of the road to the right as well, so my

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house sits quite high up off the roadside. So

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he pulls up at the side of the road, and I say,

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it's that one there, buddy, and I'm pointing

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at the house, and he sort of bent over and looked

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up at the house and pointed and said, yeah, it

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looks a nice place, looks a nice place, and then

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he sat back, really nonchalantly, sort of sat

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back into his chair, about to set off and said,

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looks lovely, but who's the lady in the bay window?

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And I kind of went, what? What do you mean? And

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I looked at it, I knew the house was empty. So

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it only had, if I remember right, I think it

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only had two radiators in the house at the time.

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It had no furniture. It had been painted, don't

00:21:10.380 --> 00:21:11.900
remember, it had been painted in a very neutral

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color throughout, but it needed a lot of TLC.

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There were no carpets. It was, yeah, it was in

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a bit of a mess. It needed a lot of work. And

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I knew nobody had been living here for six months.

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And by the way, I'm in the middle of December.

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and he's saying that he can see an old lady stood

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in the top bay window looking out, which is now

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our master bedroom, by the way. So I've looked

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up at the house again, I can't see anything.

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I've looked at him and said, you are looking

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at the right one, aren't you? And I've called

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it number 333 in the book, it's not number 333.

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But I've just said, it's that one there. And

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he says, well, I can still see her. She's looking

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down at us like she doesn't want us to be outside

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the house. And then he drove off. So, I kinda,

00:22:02.109 --> 00:22:06.000
again, I was 19 at the time. I was fully sceptic.

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Nothing's ever happened to me. In those 19 years,

00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:09.660
I've never had any reason to believe in anything

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paranormal or see ghosts or spirits, anything

00:22:12.819 --> 00:22:16.400
like that. But the way that he said it was very

00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:19.140
convincing. And yeah, we used to have a banter

00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:20.720
and things like that, but the way that he said

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it just sounded like he was being serious. So

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I thought, I can't just leave it. I need to ask

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him the question. So I just said, Go on then,

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what did this old lady look like as we were driving

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off and he said, she was probably, I don't know,

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78 year old, gray hair, dark cardigan, white

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blouse, but she had a real piercing stare. And

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he said she had her arms on the very window ledge

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looking sort of peering hours. And that was,

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I didn't think much of it at the time. That was

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the first sighting of this lady at the time.

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Did you think he was taking the piss at that

00:23:01.569 --> 00:23:05.309
point? I probably did more than anything. Yeah,

00:23:05.509 --> 00:23:08.329
but I could I could hear the the tone of his

00:23:08.329 --> 00:23:10.329
voice It didn't sound like he was taking the

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piss really it genuinely at the first I thought

00:23:13.269 --> 00:23:15.230
he was and then I heard the tone of his voice

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and I was like Yeah, all right, whatever, but

00:23:17.950 --> 00:23:19.890
it must have played on my mind for me to ask

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him for me to ask him What she looked like I

00:23:22.289 --> 00:23:25.089
must have been thinking hmm. Is he telling the

00:23:25.089 --> 00:23:29.769
truth or is he not? But yeah, that was the first

00:23:29.769 --> 00:23:32.109
sighting. I suppose what, and this should have

00:23:32.109 --> 00:23:35.009
solidified it, but it didn't. The day that I

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got the keys was about a week, week and a half

00:23:36.849 --> 00:23:39.690
after that. And my fiance at the time didn't

00:23:39.690 --> 00:23:42.869
want to move into the house until we'd got carpets

00:23:42.869 --> 00:23:45.349
and furniture and stuff in there. But being a

00:23:45.349 --> 00:23:47.190
19 -year -old lad and getting the keys to a house

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was like, I'm going there and I'm phoning all

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my mates to come round. So I did. And at the

00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:57.519
time I phoned just five of my mates and said,

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come round, bring some beer, bring a sleeping

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bag, we'll sleep wherever in the house. We'll

00:24:02.890 --> 00:24:05.309
just see the first night in the new house in

00:24:05.309 --> 00:24:09.460
well. When they got to the house, they all walked

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in, beer under one arm, sleeping bag under the

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other, got into the front room. I might have

00:24:16.569 --> 00:24:18.869
told you guys this at the Spook and Spirit Fest

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the other week, but remember when people used

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to paint around rugs in a living room because

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it saved on varnish? So it had a massive rectangle

00:24:29.769 --> 00:24:31.430
in the middle of this living room with the old

00:24:31.430 --> 00:24:36.369
oak floorboards and that really dark, thick varnish

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all the way around it. Like it had been done

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like that for years and years and years but then

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somebody's just taken away the rug. It was not

00:24:44.710 --> 00:24:48.289
very nice, I'll be honest. But we all sat down

00:24:48.289 --> 00:24:51.279
in that front room in that rectangle because

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nobody wanted to sit on that dark varnish that

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looked horrendous. And we started to play Monopoly.

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because I didn't have a TV license and I was

00:25:00.099 --> 00:25:03.059
scared to death to put the telly on. So we sat

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down, we had a few beers, we'd been playing a

00:25:05.259 --> 00:25:08.180
few hours and the six of us, remember, sat around

00:25:08.180 --> 00:25:09.619
this board. The only other thing that was in

00:25:09.619 --> 00:25:13.359
the front room was a tiny Christmas tree. Just

00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:15.059
to say at the mick, I'd bought a tiny little

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twinkling Christmas tree and put it right in

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the corner of the room in this alcove of the

00:25:18.539 --> 00:25:21.910
room. But other than that, there's a door to

00:25:21.910 --> 00:25:24.200
get to the bottom of the stairs, there's a door

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to get to the kitchen, which were both closed

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at the time. and then there's this alcove in

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the far corner, and this massive bay window that

00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.660
just dominates the front room, like a huge, huge

00:25:35.660 --> 00:25:39.400
bay window. So we're all sat around about two

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hours into the game, maybe two, three hours into

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the game, and one of the guys, I'm looking at

00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.339
him, this is the bit I don't get about this story,

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I'm looking at him across the circle from me

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as we're playing. He looks over his shoulder

00:25:53.509 --> 00:25:58.549
and then yelps and like, like... He was petrified

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of something and tumbles towards me, across the

00:26:02.490 --> 00:26:04.990
board, smashing everyone's glasses, bottles,

00:26:05.589 --> 00:26:09.529
cams everywhere, Monopoly games, screws. I think

00:26:09.529 --> 00:26:13.930
I had hotels on as well as fuming. And he sort

00:26:13.930 --> 00:26:17.009
of bowled past me into the corner and he sat

00:26:17.009 --> 00:26:20.529
down with his back against the wall with his

00:26:20.529 --> 00:26:23.730
arms tucked around his legs. And he was in shock.

00:26:23.950 --> 00:26:26.369
Something had just absolutely petrified him.

00:26:27.940 --> 00:26:30.880
because we're six lads in a room and bear in

00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.940
mind this is one of my I've known him since 11

00:26:33.940 --> 00:26:36.859
years old and he was quite a big lad I mean I'm

00:26:36.859 --> 00:26:40.319
six foot four he's quite a big lad like that

00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:42.279
way he's quite stocky you wouldn't mess with

00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:43.940
him put it that way he's not the sort of kid

00:26:43.940 --> 00:26:47.240
to show his emotion like this and he wasn't messing

00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.500
about either this was this was serious I was

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:51.079
trying to talk to him he couldn't get his words

00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.430
out to tell me what had happened So I grabbed

00:26:53.430 --> 00:26:55.250
him off the floor in all the commotion, everyone

00:26:55.250 --> 00:26:56.849
happy and blinding, saying, you've just spilled

00:26:56.849 --> 00:26:59.289
your drink and you've ruined the game. And I

00:26:59.289 --> 00:27:01.269
took him into the kitchen and I just stood with

00:27:01.269 --> 00:27:03.569
my arms on his shoulders and just said, what

00:27:03.569 --> 00:27:07.539
happened? And he went, did you not see her? I

00:27:07.539 --> 00:27:10.119
said, see who? He went, the lady. There was a

00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:12.039
lady sat on an invisible chair in the corner

00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.599
of the room, just staring at me. And he said

00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:19.309
the words, piercing stare. And at that point,

00:27:19.750 --> 00:27:22.750
this is a week and a half apart. and it's my

00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:26.750
first night in the new house. I still was young

00:27:26.750 --> 00:27:28.589
and naive and didn't put two and two together.

00:27:30.190 --> 00:27:33.029
I still didn't really, I knew what, these people

00:27:33.029 --> 00:27:34.930
didn't know each other either. So Craig was a

00:27:34.930 --> 00:27:37.609
work colleague and Greg, well I've called him

00:27:37.609 --> 00:27:40.349
in the book, was just a friend from school. They

00:27:40.349 --> 00:27:42.539
don't know each other. So there's no way they

00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:46.180
can collaborate stories between each other. But

00:27:46.180 --> 00:27:48.720
I asked him to describe her to me and he described

00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:50.880
it the same way. Dark cardigan, white blouse.

00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.319
He could see a full body, so he said she had

00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:57.259
a full sort of black gown sort of dress thing

00:27:57.259 --> 00:28:02.109
on. But she was sat in an invisible chair, apparently

00:28:02.109 --> 00:28:03.910
in the corner of the room behind him. But I was

00:28:03.910 --> 00:28:09.869
facing that corner. I didn't see anything. So,

00:28:10.859 --> 00:28:14.779
I don't know. There are such things as coincidences,

00:28:14.779 --> 00:28:17.519
but they start getting strange when it starts

00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.940
getting to one, two, three, four, six people,

00:28:20.380 --> 00:28:22.640
seven sightings. It starts getting a bit weird.

00:28:24.789 --> 00:28:26.769
I mean, there's coincidences and then there's

00:28:26.710 --> 00:28:32.930
seeing an old lady in the room. You can't fake

00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:38.910
the fear that he portrayed then. If he could

00:28:38.910 --> 00:28:42.779
do that on cue, he'd be working in Hollywood.

00:28:44.549 --> 00:28:46.190
It's probably the best way to put it, because

00:28:46.190 --> 00:28:49.049
he couldn't even get his words out. Like I say,

00:28:49.069 --> 00:28:52.299
he was stuttering to get his words out, and I

00:28:52.299 --> 00:28:53.880
had to take him away out of the room for him

00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:59.640
to stutter to me what he'd just seen. sort of

00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:01.740
traumatizing event for him, I suppose, at the

00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:06.470
time. And it's like you said, these events took

00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:10.349
place on separate occasions, that sighting and

00:29:10.349 --> 00:29:12.170
when you first moved in, you were frenzied in

00:29:12.170 --> 00:29:15.460
it. And that was the days before the internet

00:29:15.460 --> 00:29:20.990
properly. Oh yeah, this is 2004. Yeah, so that

00:29:20.990 --> 00:29:24.630
was just on the cusp of social media and everything.

00:29:25.089 --> 00:29:29.170
So it's not like they could have potentially

00:29:29.170 --> 00:29:32.869
seen the same post online? No such thing back

00:29:32.869 --> 00:29:37.720
then for the old people in the house. You take

00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.079
it to modern day right now. So after the first

00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:42.920
book had come out and I've written about this

00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.160
in the second book, there was a guy contacted

00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.940
me on Facebook called David. This was his actual

00:29:48.940 --> 00:29:50.359
name and I asked him if he wanted to use the

00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.799
name of the book and he said, yeah. So put him

00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.809
in the second book. He had somehow come across

00:29:57.809 --> 00:29:59.809
my book who was in a meeting at work and somebody

00:29:59.809 --> 00:30:01.089
had said, have you heard about that book the

00:30:01.089 --> 00:30:03.630
lady in the window? A few of them had in the

00:30:03.630 --> 00:30:06.670
room and he hadn't and somebody gave him a copy

00:30:06.670 --> 00:30:08.630
of it and he took it home and read it and he

00:30:08.630 --> 00:30:11.069
got to about chapter 10 and he reached out to

00:30:11.069 --> 00:30:13.569
me on Facebook and said I had to reach out to

00:30:13.569 --> 00:30:16.089
you I know you don't say where the house is what

00:30:16.089 --> 00:30:17.930
the address is all this sort of stuff and you've

00:30:17.930 --> 00:30:19.690
changed the names and stuff he said but I know

00:30:19.690 --> 00:30:22.349
which house you're talking about and I've had

00:30:22.349 --> 00:30:24.960
a few people do this on social media trying to

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.519
guess where it is and stuff. And I said, go on

00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.099
then, tell me what the address is. And he told

00:30:29.099 --> 00:30:33.390
me. And I was like, okay, how do you know that?

00:30:33.690 --> 00:30:36.109
And he said, I've seen the lady in the bay window

00:30:36.109 --> 00:30:40.579
after she'd passed. And I know who it was. And

00:30:40.579 --> 00:30:45.819
I was like, okay, you've got me attention. We

00:30:45.819 --> 00:30:48.200
need to talk. So I spoke to him on the phone.

00:30:48.579 --> 00:30:51.259
He told me the story. He himself, and I've got

00:30:51.259 --> 00:30:54.599
the interview recorded. which was just unbelievable.

00:30:55.059 --> 00:30:58.339
He sat at my kitchen table with me. For the second

00:30:58.339 --> 00:31:00.059
book, I wanted to write a chapter about this.

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:02.900
And he told me the whole thing about it. He'd

00:31:02.900 --> 00:31:05.119
basically gone to visit his mom across the road.

00:31:05.180 --> 00:31:07.720
He'd lived there from 1967. He was a small child

00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:10.630
when his family moved in, bang across the road.

00:31:11.930 --> 00:31:15.750
And his mom still had the house in 2020, and

00:31:15.750 --> 00:31:17.970
he'd gone to visit her. Now he couldn't put his

00:31:17.970 --> 00:31:22.910
finger on whether it was 2019 or 2020. It's kind

00:31:22.910 --> 00:31:24.690
of irrelevant, because the lady he was talking

00:31:24.690 --> 00:31:29.500
about died many, many years before. But he was

00:31:29.500 --> 00:31:31.240
stood in the front room talking to his mom. He'd

00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:32.880
gone round to make sure she was OK, because she

00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.700
was quite poorly at the time. And he's just,

00:31:35.900 --> 00:31:37.900
middle of the day, he's just looking out of the

00:31:37.900 --> 00:31:39.900
bay window on that side of the road. And he can

00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:42.920
see an old lady looking out the window at the

00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.500
top. And she just looks a bit strange to him.

00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:49.519
And she's sort of staring out into space. And

00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.980
she's not moved for a long time. And he doesn't

00:31:52.980 --> 00:31:56.160
mention anything to his mom. But about a week

00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.200
later, he goes back to visit his mom, because

00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.599
she's still very poorly. And he's around at the

00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.380
house again. He's just sat in the front room

00:32:02.380 --> 00:32:04.759
with her. And he's talking about families that

00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:06.279
lived on the street when he was growing up. And

00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.039
he said, oh, are the Robinson's still next door?

00:32:08.460 --> 00:32:10.160
Oh, are the Egbert's on that side still? Are

00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.759
they still there? And the Tomkins, are they still

00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.039
across the road? And she said, oh, no, no, no.

00:32:16.539 --> 00:32:20.390
She died years ago. And he kind of was like,

00:32:20.470 --> 00:32:24.109
oh. I saw her. But he didn't tell his mom, because

00:32:24.109 --> 00:32:26.930
his mom was very poor. And he didn't tell anybody

00:32:26.930 --> 00:32:29.759
until he told me. When he reached out and told

00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.099
me, because he was a skeptic and didn't want

00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:34.380
people thinking he was nuts that he'd seen a

00:32:34.380 --> 00:32:37.339
ghost. But he knew the lady. He grew up across

00:32:37.339 --> 00:32:41.769
the road from her. So he's a random guy that

00:32:41.769 --> 00:32:45.410
I don't know. He's not a fruit loop in any way,

00:32:45.589 --> 00:32:47.569
shape or form from me speaking to him. He seems

00:32:47.569 --> 00:32:49.589
a very sensible guy. He's worked in education

00:32:49.589 --> 00:32:54.119
for a lot of his life. and transport and all

00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:56.839
sorts of stuff so he was quite a clever bloke

00:32:57.990 --> 00:33:02.200
and he just yeah to hear him tell the story then

00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:04.759
me show him pictures and when he saw one of the

00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:06.660
pictures nearly fall off his chair backwards

00:33:06.660 --> 00:33:10.000
was incredible and i could see it really shook

00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:11.779
him up when i showed him the pictures like that's

00:33:11.779 --> 00:33:14.849
her that's what i saw that's the lady that i

00:33:14.849 --> 00:33:17.930
saw i was like okay yeah well she definitely

00:33:17.930 --> 00:33:22.069
died she's uh she died she died in the house

00:33:22.069 --> 00:33:27.589
so uh yeah So you mentioned that you haven't

00:33:27.589 --> 00:33:35.250
seen the lady yourself. Has your wife seen the

00:33:35.250 --> 00:33:38.069
lady? She's the reason it's six people and seven

00:33:38.069 --> 00:33:41.819
sites and she's seen her twice. So the first

00:33:41.819 --> 00:33:46.970
time she saw her was, in fact, I can tell you

00:33:46.970 --> 00:33:49.269
this, I can do you a little bit of a reveal if

00:33:49.269 --> 00:33:52.069
you like. So my next podcast guest is going to

00:33:52.069 --> 00:33:58.109
be my wife. spent so long asking and asking and

00:33:58.109 --> 00:34:00.109
asking away to say please come on the podcast

00:34:00.109 --> 00:34:01.970
because people want to hear from you because

00:34:01.970 --> 00:34:03.809
you've seen her twice and she's been here for

00:34:03.809 --> 00:34:06.529
a lot of the other incidents as well. She was

00:34:06.529 --> 00:34:08.710
here the first time I saw a Poltergeist activity,

00:34:08.789 --> 00:34:11.460
she sat next to me when it happened and that

00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:15.900
blows my mind to this day but yeah I've been

00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:17.940
begging her to come on the podcast and she is

00:34:17.940 --> 00:34:23.409
so we're filming that tomorrow so yeah that'll

00:34:23.409 --> 00:34:26.110
be that'll be coming soon on Beyond the Bay Window.

00:34:27.420 --> 00:34:29.840
Amazing. Amazing. You just mentioned poltergeist

00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:34.750
activity. Yes Go on. I know a good poltergeist

00:34:34.750 --> 00:34:38.230
Okay, so this was the first time I'd seen it

00:34:38.230 --> 00:34:42.070
with my own eyes But I was I was sat on the sofa

00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:44.869
Next to my wife. We'd had both had long days

00:34:44.869 --> 00:34:47.090
at work and I've literally got a bottle of wine

00:34:47.090 --> 00:34:49.230
and poured us both a glass and we were sat down

00:34:49.230 --> 00:34:52.250
just chatting to each other on the sofa across

00:34:52.250 --> 00:34:54.969
from us on the far side of the room was the telly

00:34:54.969 --> 00:34:57.409
and the door at the bottom of the stairs where

00:34:57.409 --> 00:34:59.110
we've had quite a lot of activity through the

00:34:59.110 --> 00:35:01.469
years with footsteps and shadows going underneath

00:35:01.469 --> 00:35:06.710
and all sorts of stuff but as I'm sat there I

00:35:06.710 --> 00:35:08.829
hear the door handle got quite a creak like a

00:35:08.829 --> 00:35:11.940
squeak to it and I heard it and I looked round

00:35:11.940 --> 00:35:14.219
I could see the door handle coming down spring

00:35:14.219 --> 00:35:17.239
loaded door handle like metal piece about that

00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.460
long spring loaded I watched the door handle

00:35:19.460 --> 00:35:22.500
come down and then the door opened about seven

00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:25.199
or eight inches enough for me to be able to see

00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.389
into the foot of the Sorry into the cracking

00:35:28.389 --> 00:35:31.030
the door and I sort of put my head around said

00:35:31.030 --> 00:35:35.320
hello, and I'm only I'll be what 10 feet away

00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:39.030
from this and I shouted hello Because I thought

00:35:39.030 --> 00:35:41.250
it's got to be somebody there's got to be somebody

00:35:41.250 --> 00:35:44.170
there and the door handle snapped up and the

00:35:44.170 --> 00:35:46.929
door slammed shut and I jumped up off of the

00:35:46.929 --> 00:35:49.949
sofa faster than Linford Christie these heyday

00:35:49.949 --> 00:35:53.869
and got to the door Open the door check the door

00:35:53.869 --> 00:35:55.809
at the bottom stairs. It's locked. Nobody has

00:35:55.809 --> 00:35:58.150
run upstairs. There's only passage upstairs,

00:35:58.710 --> 00:36:01.920
out the front door. There's nobody there. And

00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.739
I stood scratching my head for a good 10 seconds

00:36:05.739 --> 00:36:08.630
thinking, what have I just seen? Have I just

00:36:08.630 --> 00:36:10.550
seen that? And I turned around to my wife and

00:36:10.550 --> 00:36:13.730
said, before you say anything, I need you to

00:36:13.730 --> 00:36:16.269
just tell me in step -by -step what you've just

00:36:16.269 --> 00:36:18.489
seen. So I need to clarify what I've just seen

00:36:18.489 --> 00:36:21.760
in my own head. And she said, the door handle

00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.420
came down. The door opened. You said hello. The

00:36:25.420 --> 00:36:27.059
door handle snapped open. The door slammed shut.

00:36:27.300 --> 00:36:33.199
And I went, that's what I saw. Explain that one

00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.579
to me. Because I can explain doors opening and

00:36:35.579 --> 00:36:37.460
closing because you can get drafts in houses,

00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.760
I get that. You've seen Uncanny with Danny Robbins

00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.110
in the wind tunnel. You can get a draft in a

00:36:44.110 --> 00:36:47.409
house, I completely get that. A draft doesn't

00:36:47.409 --> 00:36:51.579
turn the door handle, but spring loaded. Absolutely.

00:36:52.300 --> 00:36:54.679
And that was genuinely, that was a game changer

00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.880
for me because I'd seen shadows, heard footsteps,

00:36:58.099 --> 00:37:01.780
heard voices in the house. um but to see something

00:37:01.780 --> 00:37:10.510
physical move was wow yeah a bit crazy so this

00:37:10.510 --> 00:37:17.119
is all happening how so you moved in as a teenager

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:23.320
and you're now not not no no um it's just me

00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.719
we've discussed the age together we have discussed

00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:32.099
ages together um and you've gone You said that

00:37:32.099 --> 00:37:35.280
you'd not really had the paranormal sort of anything

00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:41.260
happen before that time. How has your view on

00:37:41.260 --> 00:37:43.320
the paranormal changed since you've sort of been

00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:47.170
on this journey with the house? Absolutely massively.

00:37:48.550 --> 00:37:52.369
I think if you talk to, even if something hadn't

00:37:52.369 --> 00:37:56.590
happened to me, I think genuinely having friends

00:37:56.590 --> 00:38:00.210
and family that you love and you trust. and having

00:38:00.210 --> 00:38:02.650
them be petrified in your own house and having

00:38:02.650 --> 00:38:04.889
some people that won't, one person that's not

00:38:04.889 --> 00:38:08.269
been back here for nigh on, it must be about

00:38:08.269 --> 00:38:10.530
17 years now since he was scared off out of the

00:38:10.530 --> 00:38:13.469
house and never come back and used to come two

00:38:13.469 --> 00:38:17.030
or three times a week when it was a bit more

00:38:17.030 --> 00:38:21.289
of a lad pad before it was a family home. But

00:38:21.289 --> 00:38:26.590
yeah, I think even just looking at friends and

00:38:26.590 --> 00:38:30.400
family, I would say, there's got to be something

00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:33.400
going on there for so many people to have witnessed

00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.119
things and said that things have happened to

00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.360
them in the house but then for things to start

00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:42.110
happening to me and for me to witness it and

00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.400
yeah I'm not a I'm not gonna sit in front of

00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:48.000
you by the way and say 100 % my house is haunted

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.150
there are ghosts and spirits here because I don't

00:38:51.150 --> 00:38:53.889
think I could that's the logical side of my brain

00:38:53.889 --> 00:38:56.150
I cannot sit here and say that to you 100 % my

00:38:56.150 --> 00:38:58.639
house is haunted there are ghosts here i'm still

00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.420
looking for logical explanation to it and somebody

00:39:01.420 --> 00:39:03.400
asked me the other week is it definitely ghosts

00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.820
and spirits all that sort of stuff it could be

00:39:06.820 --> 00:39:08.139
something we haven't discovered yet it could

00:39:08.139 --> 00:39:10.980
be an energy that we don't know about yet they're

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:14.719
still finding many animals and plants and things

00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.079
in the sea maybe there's something they've not

00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.860
discovered that's going on here that could be

00:39:20.860 --> 00:39:22.500
that could be as logical as saying it's ghosts

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:25.519
and spirits because i mean there's a there's

00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.349
a difference between like having a lady standing

00:39:30.349 --> 00:39:33.769
in the bay window looking down to moving a handle.

00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:36.989
Exactly, and I've not seen the lady. So until

00:39:36.989 --> 00:39:39.929
I see that with my, I think if she walked in

00:39:39.929 --> 00:39:41.449
there, I'm tight in the house now, if she walked

00:39:41.449 --> 00:39:42.989
in there and stood on the camera, I'd probably

00:39:42.989 --> 00:39:44.769
say yes. I literally hope she does because that

00:39:44.769 --> 00:39:49.130
would be amazing content. I have had before,

00:39:49.550 --> 00:39:52.559
I was doing, I can't remember what I was doing,

00:39:52.659 --> 00:39:53.920
I can't remember if it was a podcast or I was

00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:55.599
doing the audiobook, recording the audio, because

00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.309
I recorded the audiobook here as well. and I

00:39:58.309 --> 00:40:01.170
got two knocks on the door here next to me. But

00:40:01.170 --> 00:40:02.869
it was the same knock that my wife does when

00:40:02.869 --> 00:40:04.409
she brings, she sometimes brings me a cup of

00:40:04.409 --> 00:40:08.449
tea when I'm working up here. So I kinda got

00:40:08.449 --> 00:40:10.670
up, went to the door, looked out, and it was

00:40:10.670 --> 00:40:14.000
pitch black on the hallway. I was like, that's

00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.360
strange. Went downstairs and said, did you? She'd

00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:18.980
been upstairs. She was sat on the sofa, confused,

00:40:19.139 --> 00:40:20.320
anything. I said, did you just be upstairs? She

00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.159
went, no. Well, somebody's just come and knocked

00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:26.199
on the door, like you, with like the same knock

00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:30.469
knock. Yeah, there's nobody upstairs. So yeah,

00:40:30.570 --> 00:40:32.469
I have had stuff happen while, while I've been

00:40:32.469 --> 00:40:35.219
doing stuff like this. I'll just kind of say,

00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.199
because I know you had a few teams stuff coming,

00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:40.440
mentioned goes with Trent and not the Haunted

00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:42.500
Project. My Haunted Project that was that episode

00:40:42.500 --> 00:40:44.599
of the world trip, they kept them, guys came

00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:48.000
up. So any evidence that these sort of teams

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.360
have captured while staying there or visiting?

00:40:51.949 --> 00:40:55.530
Yeah, so there were a few things. I got on really

00:40:55.530 --> 00:40:58.090
well with the guys from my Haunted Hotel with

00:40:58.090 --> 00:41:02.670
Dan and Harry. And got really well with Paul

00:41:02.670 --> 00:41:05.469
and Mark from Ghosts on Trent as well. And when

00:41:05.469 --> 00:41:07.150
Ghosts on Trent came around, they literally spent

00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:09.869
a full 24 hours here. They were here for a full,

00:41:09.889 --> 00:41:12.789
full 24 hours. I shipped the dogs out to my dad's

00:41:12.789 --> 00:41:16.690
house. My wife moved out with a little one for

00:41:16.690 --> 00:41:19.269
the day. And we spent the day here and we did

00:41:19.269 --> 00:41:22.530
a full investigation. Brilliant. But if you haven't

00:41:22.530 --> 00:41:24.110
seen that, get on YouTube and watch it. They

00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:26.769
were brilliant. And I think the episode did them

00:41:26.769 --> 00:41:28.630
wonders as well. They got loads of views on that.

00:41:31.289 --> 00:41:35.150
So, yeah, evidence -wise on the day, in my head,

00:41:35.690 --> 00:41:37.510
I genuinely turned around to them as they were

00:41:37.510 --> 00:41:40.190
leaving and said, I'm a little bit disappointed

00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:43.260
for you that nothing has happened, that I will

00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:45.400
sit here and tell you that I've been here 21

00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.340
years, and yes, I've written two books about

00:41:47.340 --> 00:41:49.619
paranormal experiences, and I've got probably

00:41:49.619 --> 00:41:54.400
nigh on a third book, about half or two -thirds

00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.739
of a third book that I could write right now,

00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.550
but that's 21 years. So you've got to be very

00:42:00.550 --> 00:42:03.670
lucky to be here when something happens. I did

00:42:03.670 --> 00:42:05.250
explain to them, and they understood this completely.

00:42:05.309 --> 00:42:07.510
They've been doing the game long enough with

00:42:07.510 --> 00:42:09.170
paranormal investigations. I've been here 21

00:42:09.170 --> 00:42:11.190
years. I might have written two books about it,

00:42:11.190 --> 00:42:13.880
and I might have another two thirds of a book

00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.340
or half a book ready to write of things that

00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:20.869
have happened. But that's over 21 years. So there

00:42:20.869 --> 00:42:22.690
are a lot of days where things don't happen.

00:42:23.389 --> 00:42:25.690
However, there were a couple of instances while

00:42:25.690 --> 00:42:29.230
they were here. We went out. I took them to the

00:42:29.230 --> 00:42:32.090
best kebab house in Sheffield while they were

00:42:32.090 --> 00:42:34.630
here. So we went out for an hour, we left the

00:42:34.630 --> 00:42:36.489
cameras rolling in the house, and they had six

00:42:36.489 --> 00:42:39.260
cameras rolling in the house. And the footage

00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:41.380
that they captured while we were out, there were

00:42:41.380 --> 00:42:46.400
a lot of tapping noises and knocking noises that

00:42:46.980 --> 00:42:49.460
really strangely weren't there for the rest of

00:42:49.460 --> 00:42:52.400
the day while we were in the house. Now these

00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.340
could be from a logical standpoint, from a skeptical

00:42:55.340 --> 00:42:58.739
minded person, these could be the house settling

00:42:58.739 --> 00:43:03.260
down noises. But if they are, why weren't they

00:43:03.260 --> 00:43:05.739
there during the rest of the day while we're

00:43:05.739 --> 00:43:08.960
filming for another 24 hours is a strange thing.

00:43:09.780 --> 00:43:12.400
But one thing that really caught my eye, and

00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:13.860
I still don't know where I stand on this, if

00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:16.440
you haven't seen it, go and have a look for it.

00:43:16.699 --> 00:43:19.139
So Paul messaged me about, it was about two weeks

00:43:19.139 --> 00:43:22.119
into the edit, and said, I think I've just found

00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:23.860
something. It might be the best thing we've ever

00:43:23.860 --> 00:43:27.650
captured. And I said, go on then. So he sent

00:43:27.650 --> 00:43:29.449
me the clip, and he just sent me a little clip.

00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.619
But he said, just fast forward on the timeline

00:43:31.619 --> 00:43:36.449
at the bottom, you'll see 5121. Have a look at

00:43:36.449 --> 00:43:38.250
it and tell me what you see. And that's all he

00:43:38.250 --> 00:43:41.269
said to me. And I watched the footage and went,

00:43:41.329 --> 00:43:45.050
what the bloody hell is that? It looked like

00:43:45.050 --> 00:43:47.590
a lady stood at the window. Not at the bay window,

00:43:47.590 --> 00:43:50.510
by the way. That was at the window in this office

00:43:50.510 --> 00:43:55.250
right next to me where I'm sat right now. If

00:43:55.250 --> 00:43:57.829
you look at the footage, it really does look

00:43:57.829 --> 00:44:01.730
like a lady stood at the window. We even had

00:44:01.730 --> 00:44:05.289
we ended up having a debate the three of us me

00:44:05.289 --> 00:44:08.230
Mark and Paul from ghosts on Trent got on a podcast

00:44:08.230 --> 00:44:10.949
a bit like this and had a debate on YouTube live

00:44:10.949 --> 00:44:14.110
about it and We ended up at the decision that

00:44:14.110 --> 00:44:18.679
Paul said it was pareidolia Mark said he thinks

00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:22.440
it was a lady at the window and I said I don't

00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.219
know I'd like you to bring the camera back put

00:44:25.219 --> 00:44:28.199
it in the same position same camera same lighting

00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.969
same It was raining that night so I've put some

00:44:30.969 --> 00:44:32.550
water on the window of wait till it's a rainy

00:44:32.550 --> 00:44:35.750
night and let's see what we can see. Now I have

00:44:35.750 --> 00:44:37.449
tried to film it myself. I've actually bought

00:44:37.449 --> 00:44:40.050
a camera off Ghost on Trent, what they used that

00:44:40.050 --> 00:44:42.789
day and I've tried to film it myself. In fact

00:44:42.789 --> 00:44:44.170
I don't know if it was the camera they used that

00:44:44.170 --> 00:44:46.010
day because they borrowed some cameras as well.

00:44:46.780 --> 00:44:48.719
But I've tried to film it from the same position

00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.940
and I can't see the same thing. All I see is

00:44:52.940 --> 00:44:55.880
a reflection of a wardrobe which is sat next

00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.619
to me right now. I don't see this figure of a

00:44:58.619 --> 00:45:01.440
lady. stood there but yeah if you haven't seen

00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.320
that check it out and if you want to borrow the

00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.480
footage for this I can certainly send it across

00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.980
to you so you can have a look at that. One strange

00:45:07.980 --> 00:45:11.860
thing from that I messaged my dad and said have

00:45:11.860 --> 00:45:14.579
a look at this what do you make of this and within

00:45:14.579 --> 00:45:17.500
a minute he sent me a picture back of my mom

00:45:17.500 --> 00:45:21.550
on her wedding day and I put the two pictures

00:45:21.550 --> 00:45:25.420
side by side and I couldn't unsee it so I'll

00:45:25.420 --> 00:45:26.980
send you that as well and you have a look at

00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:29.159
it and that's what Mark was saying I think it's

00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:30.909
your mom I think your mom's turned up at the

00:45:30.909 --> 00:45:36.309
window. But it certainly, it uncannily looks

00:45:36.309 --> 00:45:38.690
like the silhouette of my mom on her wedding

00:45:38.690 --> 00:45:41.460
day holding some flowers right in front of her,

00:45:41.460 --> 00:45:44.059
very strange. It's not how I would have, it wouldn't

00:45:44.059 --> 00:45:46.280
have sort of resonated with me because I wouldn't

00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:48.099
remember my mom from her wedding day because

00:45:48.099 --> 00:45:52.019
I wasn't alive. So it's not the sort of memory

00:45:52.019 --> 00:45:55.489
I have of her. And it'd be lovely to think it

00:45:55.489 --> 00:45:59.449
was. I'm not saying it was, but it'd be lovely

00:45:59.449 --> 00:46:07.710
to think it was. 100%. Wow. So I have to follow

00:46:07.710 --> 00:46:13.769
that now. So the books have become hugely successful.

00:46:14.570 --> 00:46:16.929
And like you mentioned, raise a load of money

00:46:16.929 --> 00:46:21.750
for charity. Did you imagine that anything sort

00:46:21.750 --> 00:46:24.949
of quite frightening and personal would turn

00:46:24.949 --> 00:46:28.369
into something quite so positive? Oh, crikey,

00:46:28.510 --> 00:46:32.849
no, no, but I do. Genuinely every day. I look

00:46:32.849 --> 00:46:36.809
at, I've got a, I'm a bit of a data geek. Every

00:46:36.809 --> 00:46:39.349
day I look at how many books have sold, both

00:46:39.349 --> 00:46:41.610
the second book for me and my family, but also

00:46:41.610 --> 00:46:43.690
the first book for the charity. And it's nice

00:46:43.690 --> 00:46:46.289
to see that every day it's like, wow, that's

00:46:46.289 --> 00:46:48.409
how much it's raised for the charity today. It's

00:46:48.409 --> 00:46:51.710
fantastic feeling to have that. Literally every

00:46:51.710 --> 00:46:53.449
day you can look at it and say, wow, it's very

00:46:53.449 --> 00:46:55.130
excellent, more excellent, more. So it's just

00:46:55.130 --> 00:46:58.210
gonna keep going up and up and up. And it always

00:46:58.210 --> 00:47:00.409
will be the first book and the audio book from

00:47:00.409 --> 00:47:02.170
the first one will always be for the charity.

00:47:03.099 --> 00:47:05.880
Um, and it still does, it's still doing about

00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.960
700 to a thousand pounds a month. It's amazing

00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.059
profit, which is just fantastic. It's really

00:47:11.059 --> 00:47:16.360
good. That is amazing. Wow. Yeah. Great tribute

00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.300
to your mom as well. It's a, yeah, it's nice.

00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.969
It's nice. It's a nice thing to have that. So

00:47:22.969 --> 00:47:26.719
you've very recently made an announcement about.

00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:28.980
Something you've been working on for a while.

00:47:29.019 --> 00:47:31.320
Do you want to talk to us about that? Yeah. Yeah,

00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:34.480
I can talk to you about that. Yeah. So, um, I,

00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:36.780
this all came about, I went to Cornwall last

00:47:36.780 --> 00:47:40.099
year with my wife and while we were there, um,

00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.960
I saw a leaflet for bottom in jail. And I thought,

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.539
Ooh, seeing this place on loads of TV programs

00:47:46.539 --> 00:47:49.159
through the years, like paranormal TV programs.

00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.739
I'd love to go there. So I picked up leaflets

00:47:51.739 --> 00:47:53.440
while we're here. Do you mind if we go there

00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.219
for the day? And we had a great day there, a

00:47:57.219 --> 00:47:59.829
lovely day out of Bodmin Jail. But while we were

00:47:59.829 --> 00:48:02.269
at Bodmin Jail, do you know when you see these

00:48:02.269 --> 00:48:04.170
sort of racks full of little brochures when you're

00:48:04.170 --> 00:48:06.809
on holiday? I picked up another one to Jamaica

00:48:06.809 --> 00:48:09.510
Inn and went, ooh, I'd like to go there as well.

00:48:09.510 --> 00:48:12.010
That'd be a great place to go to. So on the way

00:48:12.010 --> 00:48:14.269
back from Bodmin Jail, we dropped into Jamaica

00:48:14.269 --> 00:48:16.789
Inn and we went for something to eat. No paranormal

00:48:16.789 --> 00:48:18.469
investigations or anything, but I walked around

00:48:18.469 --> 00:48:21.550
the museum, had something to eat. And then after

00:48:21.550 --> 00:48:23.489
we'd had something to eat, we got back to our

00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:25.849
place we were staying, which was lovely. And

00:48:25.849 --> 00:48:28.630
I sat down on Google. I was trying to find, I

00:48:28.630 --> 00:48:30.750
wonder if, there must be more places like this

00:48:30.750 --> 00:48:33.230
in Cornwall. But I was Googling it and I couldn't

00:48:33.230 --> 00:48:39.440
really find what I was looking for. So at that

00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:41.639
point, the cogs were going in my head thinking,

00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:45.079
why has somebody not built a one -stop shop where

00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:48.349
all event organizers are in? So think like, think

00:48:48.349 --> 00:48:52.469
like Sky Scanner. haunted events, haunted experiences.

00:48:53.510 --> 00:48:59.409
So I built it. I did a thing and started building

00:48:59.409 --> 00:49:03.050
it. So I started about six months ago, and it's

00:49:03.309 --> 00:49:05.690
now live. It's there. So you can go on hauntseek

00:49:05.690 --> 00:49:08.989
.co .uk. You can search for events from all different

00:49:08.989 --> 00:49:11.630
range of organizers out there. You can book your

00:49:11.630 --> 00:49:13.389
events. You book actually direct through them,

00:49:13.730 --> 00:49:16.309
but it just tells you all the information, pricing,

00:49:16.510 --> 00:49:18.150
and when they are, that sort of stuff. You can

00:49:18.150 --> 00:49:21.429
search for closest home. dates, that sort of

00:49:21.429 --> 00:49:24.110
stuff. On the flip side of it, there's something

00:49:24.110 --> 00:49:29.099
called My Haunt Seek, which is your own little

00:49:29.099 --> 00:49:30.940
paranormal passport, which gives you a little

00:49:30.940 --> 00:49:33.099
stamp for every investigation you've been on.

00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:35.639
And you can build up through tiers on that. But

00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:38.199
also, if you're an investigator and you like

00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.199
your paranormal investigations, you can put notes

00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:44.139
in there. You can put EVPs, videos, photos, and

00:49:44.139 --> 00:49:46.340
just store everything against that investigation.

00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.579
Because if you're like me, and you do like doing

00:49:50.579 --> 00:49:52.980
stuff like that you've run out of storage pretty

00:49:52.980 --> 00:49:56.730
quick so i just wanted to build somewhere that

00:49:56.730 --> 00:49:58.530
somebody can have their own little private space

00:49:58.530 --> 00:50:01.489
where they can keep all that sort of stuff so

00:50:01.489 --> 00:50:03.889
yeah that's my new little thing that's brand

00:50:03.889 --> 00:50:06.570
brand new off the shelf and you guys have been

00:50:06.570 --> 00:50:09.420
building websites as well haven't you yeah it's

00:50:09.420 --> 00:50:14.199
not about us it's about you though and we've

00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:19.320
had a look at the website and it looks really

00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:24.710
slick it's really nice Um, and thank you guys.

00:50:26.170 --> 00:50:29.469
It's great because it's funny to say that as

00:50:29.469 --> 00:50:31.269
soon as you mentioned that, I thought to myself,

00:50:31.369 --> 00:50:34.840
there isn't really anywhere that unless you know

00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.119
the individual places, there's not really anywhere

00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.300
that you can go to go what's going on. I mean,

00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:43.739
sometimes I try on Facebook. If we're at a loose

00:50:43.739 --> 00:50:47.889
end, we'll go, where can we go? What's on today?

00:50:48.389 --> 00:50:50.570
But there's no, it's really fucking difficult

00:50:50.570 --> 00:50:53.949
to find. I'm not going to lie. I'm just going

00:50:53.949 --> 00:50:56.090
we'll just go Delamere or something like that

00:50:56.090 --> 00:50:59.449
instead Yes, well this hopefully will give you

00:50:59.449 --> 00:51:02.289
literally at the minute I think there's about

00:51:02.289 --> 00:51:05.929
900 events on there currently But I'm also trying

00:51:05.929 --> 00:51:07.869
to get more operators into there's any operators

00:51:07.869 --> 00:51:10.289
watching this that want to get their events on

00:51:10.289 --> 00:51:12.949
there Just give me a shout drop me an email or

00:51:12.949 --> 00:51:15.150
give me a shout on Facebook or anything like

00:51:15.150 --> 00:51:18.289
that And if there's any youtubers out there,

00:51:18.289 --> 00:51:20.329
we're talking about this earlier just off camera

00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:22.119
Um, is there any YouTubers out there? There's

00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.519
actually a section on there where you can put

00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.179
your YouTube channel on. Um, and it gives you

00:51:28.179 --> 00:51:30.099
a little, there's a little random button. So

00:51:30.099 --> 00:51:32.059
if you want to find your new favorite paranormal

00:51:32.059 --> 00:51:34.219
YouTubers, you click the random button, it will

00:51:34.219 --> 00:51:36.179
just select you somebody and you get watching

00:51:36.179 --> 00:51:40.440
and away you go. That's really cool. It's a spinning

00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.039
plan shirt. Yeah. It will just share the love

00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:44.719
a little bit in the paranormal community. I think

00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:48.420
that'd be nice. It needs it sometimes. Definitely.

00:51:48.900 --> 00:51:51.219
And it's not just like Ghost Hunt Sea where there's

00:51:51.219 --> 00:51:54.559
like, there's Ghost Tour, Psychic Nights, Scare

00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.320
Fest, always coming up to the peak payers for

00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.300
Scare Fest and stuff, and theatre shows. I've

00:52:00.300 --> 00:52:02.380
literally just been searching now, and the first

00:52:02.380 --> 00:52:03.519
thing that comes up when I look at the theatre

00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:06.619
shows is the Lady in the Bay window live theatre

00:52:06.619 --> 00:52:10.659
show. Is that a sponsored link or something,

00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:14.719
is it? Don't know how that got there. but yeah

00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:16.579
we've got another four theatre shows coming up

00:52:16.579 --> 00:52:19.340
later in the year but to be fair two of the we've

00:52:19.340 --> 00:52:22.840
sold out eight of the ten um we've done six of

00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:24.980
them so far and there's another four to go but

00:52:24.980 --> 00:52:27.519
two of them are sold out so if anybody does want

00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.739
tickets uh you can go to halifax or nottingham

00:52:30.739 --> 00:52:34.739
nottingham's on halloween so if you want a cool

00:52:34.739 --> 00:52:37.360
night fancy dress i'll be wearing fancy dress

00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.440
i've been bullied into it already in fact last

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.159
time you saw me i was dressed as batman so and

00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.469
your dad was robin It was, it was, yeah. That

00:52:45.469 --> 00:52:49.530
was just like, behold, that was. It was, yeah.

00:52:50.289 --> 00:52:53.070
It was a very poor night. So yeah, that should

00:52:53.070 --> 00:52:54.449
be a really good night. I'm looking forward to

00:52:54.449 --> 00:52:55.829
that on Halloween. I think it'd be a really good

00:52:55.829 --> 00:52:57.909
night. But the cast for the theatre show, there's

00:52:57.909 --> 00:53:00.750
20 of them, are phenomenal. They put on a really

00:53:00.750 --> 00:53:03.690
good show and tell the story of my house, which

00:53:03.690 --> 00:53:07.250
is just crazy that it got to that stage. And

00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:10.909
I've just signed a film deal as well, very recently.

00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:16.489
mega mega news so it's all a bit go at the minute

00:53:16.489 --> 00:53:21.690
um but yeah i love it like keeping busy how do

00:53:21.690 --> 00:53:28.530
you do you work full time as well so yeah it's

00:53:28.530 --> 00:53:31.489
i'll tell you who is we're speaking to somebody

00:53:31.489 --> 00:53:33.909
the other night on a podcast and we said once

00:53:33.909 --> 00:53:38.989
the paranormal gets you i know it's a bug in

00:53:38.989 --> 00:53:42.769
it as soon as it consumes it consumes everything

00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.559
It was like, my wife actually said to me when

00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.679
I started on the website, she looked at me and

00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:54.880
said, is this going to be like the books? Maybe,

00:53:55.300 --> 00:53:58.400
maybe it will, but I just like to be busy. I

00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.960
do work hard at my day job during the day, but

00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:03.619
then when that's finished, I've got my son to

00:54:03.619 --> 00:54:06.519
look after, I've got my wife here, family, friends,

00:54:06.619 --> 00:54:08.679
that sort of stuff. But then if I'm not doing

00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.679
anything, might as well do something productive.

00:54:12.030 --> 00:54:18.820
or something that I enjoy. 100%, 100%. So, putting

00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:24.460
aside all the books, the investigations that

00:54:24.460 --> 00:54:26.300
have taken place, their mediums and everything,

00:54:26.500 --> 00:54:29.019
anybody else has told you about the house. What

00:54:29.019 --> 00:54:35.460
do you think is going on there? I know there's

00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:37.800
something going on. I can't tell you what it

00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:41.440
is, Greg. There's something not... That's why

00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:43.840
they say it's paranormal. There's something paranormal

00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:46.210
about this place, not normal. whatever you want

00:54:46.210 --> 00:54:51.880
to call it, out of the ordinary. But there's

00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:53.920
definitely something going on here. I would love

00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.530
somebody to be able to give me a definitive,

00:54:56.530 --> 00:54:59.699
this is what's happening. Here's another first

00:54:59.699 --> 00:55:02.039
for you. I've got a medium called Linda Shepherd,

00:55:03.550 --> 00:55:05.349
who's a very well -renowned medium coming to

00:55:05.349 --> 00:55:07.449
the house. And she's coming around because we

00:55:07.449 --> 00:55:09.610
went to a medium night and she absolutely blew.

00:55:10.099 --> 00:55:12.539
blew my mind with some of the stuff. I've met

00:55:12.539 --> 00:55:14.380
a lot of mediums through the last couple of years

00:55:14.380 --> 00:55:15.739
through the stuff I've been doing. I've had two

00:55:15.739 --> 00:55:19.760
mediums in the house before. But Linda, when

00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:23.360
I was speaking to her, absolutely just, she had

00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:24.980
me in floods of tears with some of the stuff

00:55:24.980 --> 00:55:27.840
she came out with, with names and dates, and

00:55:28.739 --> 00:55:33.139
she didn't know me, and didn't know me dad. It

00:55:33.139 --> 00:55:36.820
was all very, either she's like Derren Brown,

00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:39.639
or she's got some sort of ability, is what I'll

00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.059
say to you. So she's coming to the house. I'm

00:55:42.059 --> 00:55:44.659
going to interview her on the podcast as well.

00:55:45.300 --> 00:55:49.960
We'll see how we get on with that. Amazing. Amazing.

00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.280
Nice. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know about

00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:55.739
what's here or not, but there's definitely something

00:55:55.739 --> 00:55:58.619
going on here. Unless somebody's playing an elaborate

00:55:58.619 --> 00:56:01.320
21 year prank on me. That's got everybody in

00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.119
a bit like, what's the, what's the film with?

00:56:06.179 --> 00:56:08.420
Oh God, I can't remember what the film's called.

00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:11.840
Where he's living a life for all his life, you

00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.500
guys all know. Our Truman Show. Truman Show,

00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.699
that's the one I was looking for, yeah. Unless

00:56:16.699 --> 00:56:18.320
I'm living in the Truman Show and it's all just

00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:21.820
a big lie, then yeah, there's something going

00:56:21.820 --> 00:56:25.550
on. I'm glad you knew that because I was scratching

00:56:25.550 --> 00:56:30.530
a blank then. Great film actually. It's a good

00:56:30.530 --> 00:56:33.510
film actually. And it seems to be even more relevant

00:56:33.510 --> 00:56:39.690
nowadays to be fair. Yeah, plenty much so. So

00:56:39.690 --> 00:56:41.489
where can our listeners and our viewers find

00:56:41.489 --> 00:56:46.969
your book your podcast haunt see I give us Yeah,

00:56:47.190 --> 00:56:49.550
the books books you messed up going on Amazon

00:56:49.550 --> 00:56:52.190
or if you want the signed copy you can go on

00:56:52.190 --> 00:56:54.909
the lady in the day window calm and get in touch

00:56:54.909 --> 00:56:56.829
with me and I can sort you those out for if you

00:56:56.829 --> 00:56:59.610
want presents or anything like that and I hear

00:56:59.610 --> 00:57:01.250
that they make really good Christmas presents

00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.019
and So yeah, if you want to do that, that's fine.

00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:08.019
Audio books are both on audible The podcast is

00:57:08.019 --> 00:57:09.659
called Beyond the Bay Window. We only started

00:57:09.659 --> 00:57:11.340
that about four or five months ago, but that

00:57:11.340 --> 00:57:14.280
seems to be going okay. We're learning on the

00:57:14.280 --> 00:57:15.659
job. We're not like you guys, not been doing

00:57:15.659 --> 00:57:17.559
it a long time, so we're learning on the job.

00:57:18.699 --> 00:57:20.139
But it seems to be going okay. That's called

00:57:20.139 --> 00:57:22.199
Beyond the Bay Window on YouTube and Spotify.

00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:24.820
But it is a visual one, so if you want that,

00:57:24.900 --> 00:57:28.900
go on YouTube. TfAs, ladyinthebaywindow .com.

00:57:29.099 --> 00:57:31.579
You can get tickets on there. There's only Nottingham

00:57:31.579 --> 00:57:34.719
on the 31st of October and Halifax on the 6th

00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.719
of October. And the film side of things, keep

00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.679
an eye out on the Facebook page, which is the

00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:44.699
Lady in the Bow window, William Seagrave, because

00:57:44.699 --> 00:57:46.500
they're in the development stage at the minute,

00:57:46.619 --> 00:57:49.579
which means the writing script and looking at

00:57:49.579 --> 00:57:51.820
potentially who to cast for it and stuff. But

00:57:51.820 --> 00:57:55.809
it's going to be a found footage film. So, yeah.

00:57:56.309 --> 00:57:57.530
Oh, and if you want to check that new website

00:57:57.530 --> 00:58:00.329
out, it's hauntseek .co .uk. That's enough plugging

00:58:00.329 --> 00:58:05.250
from me. That's everything. We'll pull the links

00:58:05.250 --> 00:58:08.289
in the notes anyway. Sorry Greg, sorry. There's

00:58:08.289 --> 00:58:10.010
that many things going on at the minute. I forget

00:58:10.010 --> 00:58:13.480
myself. No, it's all good. But I'd just like

00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:15.039
to say it's been an absolute pleasure. It was

00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.539
great to see you at Spook and Spirit talking.

00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:21.719
Great to meet you guys. It was a very popular

00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:25.840
store that you had. Your dad's karaoke was amazing.

00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:28.239
Oh, it was fantastic, wasn't it? Even better

00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:36.360
dressed as Robin. You was throwing the old the

00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:38.659
the words out on the microphone as well dressed

00:58:38.659 --> 00:58:43.199
as well So we had a dynamic duo that night Um,

00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.039
yeah, it's been an absolute pleasure. We'll definitely

00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.039
have to do it again And thanks for coming on

00:58:48.070 --> 00:58:50.409
Thank you guys Thank you