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But what I was hearing was the same voice on

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all the frequencies. So it was there the whole

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time, which is one that can't explain because

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it can't be radio bleed because it was on every

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single channel. It was like it was in my ears

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or in the device itself, but not a bit of radio

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bleed coming through from the presenter. And

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that's the only thing where I think that I can't

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explain that one. That's the only thing that

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kind of keeps me. The answers we've had where

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it's just been even massive, massive coincidences

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because the responses we've had to specific.

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How's it going? Very well, very well. How's it

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going with you Greg? yeah very good very good

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it's a bit cooler this week i've caught the sun

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which is quite cool i have i was sunbathing at

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the weekend not as toned as you i seem to get

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quite a quick tan so yeah i was just out in the

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sun at the weekend so that was nice that was

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nice what you been up to anything exciting yeah

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back down south last week uh where it was very

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very warm still uh back up here now And we are

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currently have to have the windows closed for

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like three days because there's been wildfires.

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Oh, yeah. It's just been covered in like, it's

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not really near me. It's like the other side

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of Manchester, but the whole place is just covered.

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No, you can smell this is burning like all the

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time for like three days now. It's like if we

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thought it was like a house nearby the first

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head, I smelt it. What it wasn't is like from

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20 miles across Manchester. This these wildfires

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on the moors and still going like three days

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later. It's like heat wave. You gotta keep windows

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short. It's mad. I saw a I saw a tick tock of

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some woman letting off fireworks or something

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like that and I think that's her Yeah What a

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nightmare. What a nightmare. Yep. So and what

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the hot weather continues Had an ice cream today

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for like the first time We don't have any ice

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cream and come around there like literally five

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years and never hear him Started hearing it and

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it used to come out 20 past five kept hearing

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it like right wait for it because it's that hot.

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When I had an ice cream and I managed to catch

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him, I basically started the roll and was like,

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flagging down and was like, yeah, I want an ice

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cream off you. But he must be charging London

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prices because it's £4 .50. That's pretty standard.

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A 99er. I spent in like two quid at max maybe.

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It's been a while since I've had an ice cream

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but £4 .50. That's like festival prices. That's

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like, yeah. They're about four or five quid down

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here. That's mad. It's crazy prices is last first

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only a long time last one for long time. I'll

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buy a whole tub for a quick from Tesco Yeah,

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i've um, i've been buying ice lollies. I've got

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now got a freezer. I didn't know I had access

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to a freezer until This week ish. So we've uh

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stocked up on ice lollies. So Yeah, so it's been

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it's been too hot been too long so a little bit

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of an update we've got loads of guests booked

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in. Now, we normally, we might have a couple

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of guests in advance. We got about five guests

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booked in over the coming couple of months. There's

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a lot of bit of a dry spell. People haven't wanted

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to sort of stay in behind the hot computer desk

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for two hours talking to us. Yeah, that's savage.

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We have some booked in. Yeah. So we've just to

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give you an overview of what we've got. We've

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got some crop circle makers. Which is a subject

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we haven't covered before Not not anything more

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than just a fleeting talk. So that's gonna be

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really good and that is Crop circle makers and

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the paranormal encounters that they have whilst

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making crop circles. So that's gonna be cool

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Yeah, I can't wait for that one. Interesting.

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We've got an alien abduction one where the guy

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was told about Humanity and the future of humanity.

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So that's gonna be a cool one. We've got two

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documentaries The guys making documentaries coming

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on Two of them you already know because we've

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spoken to many times and then another one about

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UFOs So that's gonna be super cool. Then we have

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got Spooky Britain guy spooky Britain guy and

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I think that's that's it at the moment oh and

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we've got the um we've got a police officer um

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coming in to talk about ufos in the police at

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some point um and we've got his book here so

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yeah it's been here we got exciting stuff coming

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up yes it's uh gonna be a good summer i think

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see the paranormal yeah and then next weekend

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we're all out And I think we're going to an abandoned

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building somewhere in another country. Is it?

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Is it? Is it? Is it off the border? It's across

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the border I think. International abandoned building.

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Cool. And I think since the last time we spoke,

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I don't know, did we speak, have we spoken at

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a Bufolk? No we hadn't. So we spoke at Bufolk

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as well, but we were in a UFO group about our

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talk from Ghosts to the Stars. So that was fun.

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That was good fun. There was a good, receptive

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audience, loads of questions and some that we

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just didn't know the answer to, which is always

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my fear when we go somewhere and somebody is

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going to go, what about this? Oh, the very first

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question where I didn't really understood what

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he said. So I asked him to repeat it and I really

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don't understand it again. I thought I can't

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ask a third time what you're talking about. It's

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around consciousness and stuff like that, I think.

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Yeah, some random. Yeah, I really couldn't understand

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what the actual thing he was asking. Yeah. Just

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kind of move on quickly to another question.

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But we have got our next talk coming up in a

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few weeks, about a month's time. About a month's

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time, yeah. ASAP. Online, online. Yeah. So go

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and check out their page. And you can sign up

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if you wanna watch it. If you can't get to one

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of our physical ones, you can watch it online.

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I think they charge five pound for the year's

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access. Yeah, that's what you remember about

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SAP. Yeah, for a year, that's five pounds. There's

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weekly seminars, so every Thursday there's a

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seminar which will be one of the speakers at.

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And we have both separately been one of the speakers

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there as well. Yep. We've both done it before.

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So it's really for five. We got newsletters and

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access to the website and everything. So for

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five, you can do the paranormal, anything like

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that. Just get signed up to ASAP. Yeah. Lots

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of good talk. There's lots of guests that have

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been on here have talked for ASAP as well. So

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that's good. And I'm trying to think what else

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we got coming up. I think that's it at the moment.

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I know. Some investigations plans. Oh, yes. Yes.

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Which we won't go into too much detail about.

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No, you'll find out once we've been yeah Looking

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forward to that. That's gonna be fun Yeah loads

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of stuff going on. It feels like we we had a

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bit of a quiet period and now we're We're hitting

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it hard. We're back full throttle back full throttle.

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Yeah, and then we did an episode last week for

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pub haunted pub crawl and Nick Thompson had suggested

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on tik -tok for Holywell in North Wales. Challenged

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us to find a haunted pub there, found four. Easy

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work. So if anybody has got any recommendations

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for a pub, location or like a town that you don't

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think there's a haunted pub, we will try and

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find something. Go find our TikTok and comment

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on that post. yes and drop us a follow while

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we're there because we're at nine thousand three

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hundred and something followers and we're so

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close so close to ten thousand we'll get there

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by the end of the year i'm sure i'll get there

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by the end of summer hopefully hopefully so yeah

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so that's been a bit of a whirlwind roundup of

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what's been going on it's been wild um and i

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think you guys might be coming down again to

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Oxfordshire at some point Yes, hopefully in August.

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Yeah, that'd be good. That'd be good So yeah,

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just a Wild time in the moment and it's good

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and it's nice that it's sunny It's sunny late

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and hopefully the folly will be done by the time

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you get is still not done They had a music festival

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in the town this weekend called folly fest and

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the folly towers still all wrapped up in cling

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film and whatever Don't understand that but so

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anyway, what are we talking about tonight Ash?

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So I think tonight we're gonna be Going into

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a bit of detail on some power normal equipment

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Yeah, and kind of looking at because there's

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a lot of stuff that we've used in the past a

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lot of stuff that a lot of people use you'll

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see when I was on the YouTube's and all the tic

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-tacs and did not fake good equipment We kind

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of come to learn that over the past few years

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that they're just not reliable and so kind of

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looking at some of the panel equipment sort of

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the Why you shouldn't so well not maybe why you

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shouldn't use them but kind of things look out

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for when you're using them Yeah, to not read

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too many false positives. I guess yeah And like

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you say we we did use them all and we we go out

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now we hardly use anything really do we Which

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I think it is good because then you get to use

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your own Like your own body you can pick up on

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the vibe and you can hear stuff and So yeah,

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so I think the first one and I think probably

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the most contra one of the most controversial

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ones that people use is cat balls So cat balls

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For everybody that doesn't know I'm making an

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assumption that most people know what cat balls

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are especially in the paranormal so cat balls

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are light up pet toys that flash when moved simple

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as that basically popular as a trigger object

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and people if you watch a tiktok live if you've

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watched one of ours before you've probably seen

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us use them in the past to be fair they're pretty

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much a staple of people's paranormal equipment

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especially when going out for the first time

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or seeing stuff on TikTok it's kind of a thing

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that you see and everybody goes I'll put the

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cat bowl over there and then it lights up and

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you think something's happened. It's mad that

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I think one of the kind of recurring themes we'll

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see in this episode is because they go off so

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easy it's kind of it's kind of bit like confirmation

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bias it's like you want to go to places and you

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want things to happen so people going to use

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this equipment, the cataballs and some of the

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other stuff they'll talk about where you guaranteed

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it to go off. Like no matter what, a cataball

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is going to go off at some point in the night.

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Yep. Like the way they work is like there's sort

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of the circuit in the middle, it's like a tiny

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bit of filament. And once it touches part, it

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sets the lights off and the sound sometimes on

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some of them. And it's so easy to set off, like

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a slight gust of wind, a vibration of someone

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walking in the next room. could say half movement

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of literally getting out of a chair can set them

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off like literally anything uh can set them off

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and you'll see like i've seen investigations

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on on youtube where a whole training segment

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has just been cat balls some cat balls and we

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have these cat balls and then do more work around

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these cat balls it's like can't just skip past

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cat balls because like the art is going to go

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off no matter what yeah also they um you can't

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change the sensitivity No, two cat balls are

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the same you invariably get them from Amazon

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to be fair and A couple of quid are they cheap

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as well, which makes them accessible. Yeah, they

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come from China. They're mass -produced. There's

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no like certified Sensitivity so like you say

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they can they can easily go off and people You

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will see them any YouTube when the paranormal

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any tick -tock pretty much most most teams will

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have cat balls in there somewhere in their arsenal

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it's also been shown that if you put the cat

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balls under balls so you remove all the outside

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vibration wind sound because the sound vibrations

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from your voice can set them off that they can

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randomly go off as well so there's no there's

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no standard so they're great They're great as

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a visual on the TikTok, especially on TikTok

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live. They work brilliant for flashing and getting

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people's attention. Yeah. And I think if you

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if you balance one in the right place, and I'm

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not saying teams do this, but you get something

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in the right place on a floorboard somewhere

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and you can move ever so slightly, you can almost

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activate it yourself from a distance. I'm not

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saying people do it, but some people probably

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do. Definitely. And one of my biggest disappointments

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was quite a few years ago, I went on a public

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ghost hunt with one of the biggest paranormal

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events teams in the UK. It had been bought for

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me as a present. I'd done it before, sort of

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a public one. And one of the big parts of the

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night was everyone that was there in the big

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circle. So about 30 people. and all the equipment

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they had during this section was about five cat

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balls and a couple of K2 meters and is basically

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we're just watching these cat balls going off

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in a couple of minutes and that's what the whole

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thing was I was like these aren't cheap to come

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to and I sat looking at watching a cat ball in

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a room with 30 odd people would cause all sorts

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of movements and noise and wind and stuff and

00:16:10.169 --> 00:16:12.049
yeah I was like I am not doing a public call

00:16:12.379 --> 00:16:16.279
ever again after the whole night was kind of

00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:19.139
a bit shit uh the other things that we did which

00:16:19.139 --> 00:16:20.600
we've come onto with the other sort of equipment

00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.919
but yeah it's just the waste of time and it's

00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:25.519
one of them there's probably three pieces of

00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.639
equipment which when i watch over tiktok or youtube

00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.779
and they pull these out the biggest eye roll

00:16:31.779 --> 00:16:35.690
that's like really they're probably on our list

00:16:35.690 --> 00:16:39.159
and the other two yeah it's like and it's like

00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:40.820
when you see people like we've always like say

00:16:40.820 --> 00:16:43.970
we use them like yeah A lot of it is just, you

00:16:43.970 --> 00:16:46.590
see it on TV, you see it on the show, so you

00:16:46.590 --> 00:16:49.049
sort of replicate to people that you enjoy watching,

00:16:49.149 --> 00:16:51.450
so you replicate it, you get results, all good.

00:16:51.730 --> 00:16:54.429
I think the more you do anything, you learn stuff.

00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:58.240
Like we said at the start, the Mac equipment

00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.480
we used to use, that we'll talk about as well,

00:17:02.340 --> 00:17:05.019
just don't anymore because we just learn how

00:17:05.019 --> 00:17:07.299
they actually work and why they shouldn't be

00:17:07.299 --> 00:17:10.390
used. And when you see people that you know have

00:17:10.390 --> 00:17:12.789
been doing it for years, for decades, you still

00:17:12.789 --> 00:17:15.470
see them pulling out this equipment, you just

00:17:15.470 --> 00:17:18.470
think, what are you doing? You know better, you

00:17:18.470 --> 00:17:20.849
know better than this. Like, what are you actually

00:17:20.849 --> 00:17:24.130
doing? And I think that's the challenge. Some

00:17:24.130 --> 00:17:28.950
of these are specifically being used because

00:17:28.950 --> 00:17:33.519
they trigger so much, because they get a reaction

00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:37.670
from people, because on a live stream they're

00:17:37.670 --> 00:17:39.509
they're perfect because people want to see stuff

00:17:39.509 --> 00:17:43.390
going off and that's cool that's each to their

00:17:43.390 --> 00:17:50.430
own but when something goes off too much that's

00:17:50.430 --> 00:17:55.710
when you have to question what what is it that's

00:17:55.710 --> 00:17:59.559
triggering it and if you can walk by a cat bowl

00:17:59.630 --> 00:18:04.170
and it goes off and you're nowhere near it the

00:18:04.170 --> 00:18:07.250
chances are that it's going to trigger and it's

00:18:07.250 --> 00:18:10.960
not necessarily and there's no scientific Evidence

00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.980
to confirm that cat ball go off because something

00:18:12.980 --> 00:18:17.289
is paranormal. I don't even know what the What

00:18:17.289 --> 00:18:20.049
the thought is around it that today to the ghosts

00:18:20.049 --> 00:18:24.660
push it. I don't I don't know That's one one

00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:27.220
good thing. I don't even know I was using it

00:18:27.609 --> 00:18:30.069
But I don't even know why the cat ball was supposed

00:18:30.069 --> 00:18:33.349
to go off. Is it being moved by a ghost? Maybe

00:18:33.349 --> 00:18:35.589
and you think if they are moving it physically

00:18:35.589 --> 00:18:38.859
Why they're not actually pushing it? Enjoyed

00:18:38.859 --> 00:18:40.960
in the slightest movement to say off. We're not

00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:47.140
actually moving the ball itself. Yeah Yeah, so

00:18:47.140 --> 00:18:53.319
I think that's cat balls done Your ass But the

00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.880
thing is Like you say everybody probably starts

00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.920
off with stuff. Oh, we're like years into this

00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.410
now Doing it interviewing people interviewing

00:19:04.410 --> 00:19:09.759
debunkers interviewing other teams with all of

00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:15.200
our friends do paranormal investigations and

00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:19.750
you just sort of refine what seems to get good

00:19:19.750 --> 00:19:22.890
results for you that you can go well there's

00:19:22.890 --> 00:19:27.490
no other reason why that's happened apart from

00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:31.519
something I can't explain and I think one thing

00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:34.640
that's worth noting is that when we go out me

00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:39.099
and you and when we go out with the girls We

00:19:39.099 --> 00:19:41.920
capture stuff and we capture on video and not

00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:48.140
once do we say it's paranormal we just Know something

00:19:48.140 --> 00:19:50.099
strange has happened. We can't explain what's

00:19:50.099 --> 00:19:53.019
happened, but something's happened and I think

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People are very quick to jump towards the paranormal

00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:02.420
But a cat ball moving is not paranormal. It might

00:20:02.420 --> 00:20:06.319
be It might be but big ghost cats it couldn't

00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:08.859
round. You know, I'm he thinks a building might

00:20:08.859 --> 00:20:12.019
have had so many pet cats all the years Could

00:20:12.019 --> 00:20:14.240
be hundreds of cat ghosts swimming around playing

00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.059
with the balls. It could all be legit Yeah, could

00:20:17.059 --> 00:20:19.740
be but the problem is nobody there's no scientific

00:20:19.740 --> 00:20:24.009
proof that a cat ball works We know they trigger

00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:31.720
sporadically autonomously or don't Two cat balls

00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:33.619
next to each other one could go off Why is the

00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:35.740
other one not gone off if they're on the same

00:20:35.740 --> 00:20:40.079
surface and there's so many different types of

00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:42.920
cat ball They're not made in a scientific way.

00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:47.589
They're made in their millions in factories there's

00:20:47.589 --> 00:20:54.380
no standard yeah so again if you want to use

00:20:54.380 --> 00:20:56.880
cat balls you use cat balls but like you said

00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.240
right at the start things you need to be aware

00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:07.930
of when you're using them we're done on cat balls

00:21:07.930 --> 00:21:11.170
we're done we're done i'm gonna end up getting

00:21:11.170 --> 00:21:14.269
quite frustrated by this episode i think because

00:21:14.269 --> 00:21:16.529
all these things are gonna annoy me i'm gonna

00:21:16.529 --> 00:21:19.210
go through my cupboard and just make sure i absolutely

00:21:19.210 --> 00:21:21.970
have not got any of this stuff All the stuff

00:21:21.970 --> 00:21:26.369
that we have got, that we are absolutely sure

00:21:26.369 --> 00:21:29.329
that we're happy with how it triggers. So we

00:21:29.329 --> 00:21:31.789
might even learn something here. We might even

00:21:31.789 --> 00:21:35.349
get rid of our own equipment somewhere. So next

00:21:35.349 --> 00:21:41.500
one, this is a good one. EMF meters, K2s as they're

00:21:41.500 --> 00:21:52.039
better known. They can, right, so they detect

00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.789
electromagnetic fluctuations and frequencies.

00:21:58.779 --> 00:22:01.859
The thing is, which is great, but the thing is,

00:22:02.279 --> 00:22:06.930
there's no science to say that ghosts fluctuate

00:22:06.930 --> 00:22:14.259
EMF fields. And I think that's the thing with

00:22:14.259 --> 00:22:16.980
all of this. There's no real science behind of

00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:24.019
a lot of it. I don't even know why K2 meters

00:22:24.019 --> 00:22:27.259
seem to be the... The thing is another staple

00:22:27.259 --> 00:22:30.619
you go and type in ghost hunting equipment on

00:22:30.619 --> 00:22:37.130
Google or in Amazon and it will come up cat balls

00:22:37.420 --> 00:22:42.849
EMF meters K2 the standard K2 and yeah, you'll

00:22:42.849 --> 00:22:45.009
know exactly what that is as soon as you search

00:22:45.009 --> 00:22:48.569
in K2 meter or EMF meter It will come under that

00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:51.519
you can buy them for like four quid on I think

00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.839
that's what it is again with the cat balls. They're

00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.299
very accessible because they're cheap and especially

00:22:56.299 --> 00:22:58.579
if you've not got any budget to do so you want

00:22:58.579 --> 00:23:00.480
some equipment because some of the stuff is so

00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:02.319
expensive something else which really annoys

00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.960
me because some stuff is so cheap but they're

00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.299
charging so much because it's stick power normal

00:23:07.299 --> 00:23:10.440
stick on it and it's 10 times the actual price

00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.240
like you could buy it anywhere else on and with

00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:15.740
like k2s if people want some equipment to get

00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:18.259
started with and might have the budget to buy

00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:20.440
anything then get a couple k2s and some cat balls

00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:23.000
or 10 to 15 quid They've got some equipment.

00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:25.380
They can start doing a panel investigation because

00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:28.519
they think you need these things to do it with.

00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:32.230
And again, when we look at when you watch YouTube

00:23:32.230 --> 00:23:35.329
and Tiktok, I was a Tiktok live and they've got

00:23:35.329 --> 00:23:38.279
an EMF meter there. It's right next to their

00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.339
phone and it's always going off. Yeah, because

00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:45.759
you're on the Internet. Your phone is using that's

00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.339
what's causing EMF fluctuations. The electric

00:23:48.339 --> 00:23:51.779
being. charge whatever around it and like I mentioned

00:23:51.779 --> 00:23:55.720
about why is it sort of a ghost thing like No,

00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.160
I don't know that ghosts give off electromagnetic

00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:00.460
frequencies or whatever. So why does it go up

00:24:00.460 --> 00:24:04.279
and when people when people like Oh Answer me

00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:06.660
a question give you go to orange. It's easy.

00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:09.599
Yes, whatever. It's like how is the ghost or

00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:14.579
the spirit? Making it go Orange like what what

00:24:14.579 --> 00:24:16.619
what's the actual thought process again around

00:24:16.619 --> 00:24:20.839
what the actual? what is the ghost doing to impact

00:24:20.839 --> 00:24:23.799
this equipment and when you watch it kind of

00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:28.900
in isolation you do think this is just bollocks

00:24:28.900 --> 00:24:31.700
a lot of the time and the thing is we've used

00:24:31.700 --> 00:24:34.980
them i remember using them a lot we've used them

00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:37.640
at devil's quites me and you the first time we

00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.039
went down there that the other year whenever

00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:43.980
you came down and we went to devil's quites and

00:24:43.980 --> 00:24:51.440
in the daytime and we were filming but although

00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.859
in a moment i'll explain the the other bit about

00:24:53.859 --> 00:24:56.859
the k2 meter going off that you you can walk

00:24:56.859 --> 00:25:00.180
back from the k2 meter and you can see the levels

00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:03.440
going down you go forward a bit and it goes up

00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:08.670
that's i mean people don't go into a room and

00:25:08.670 --> 00:25:12.849
just check where where the power socket is you

00:25:12.849 --> 00:25:17.049
get near a wi -fi router it's going to go up

00:25:17.049 --> 00:25:19.390
you go you got a washing machine going on in

00:25:19.390 --> 00:25:23.500
your other room Where that is backs onto your

00:25:23.500 --> 00:25:26.079
main room. There's going to be more electricity

00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:33.420
in that area That's going to go off it's They

00:25:33.420 --> 00:25:36.400
detect electricity and not spirits essentially

00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.200
they might There's simple terms. Yeah, they might

00:25:41.710 --> 00:25:45.130
But the problem is we don't know that they do

00:25:45.130 --> 00:25:48.390
or how it works So I think the challenge is and

00:25:48.390 --> 00:25:51.170
I've seen it as well you like you said make it

00:25:51.170 --> 00:25:55.049
go to orange or yellow if you're the answer is

00:25:55.049 --> 00:25:58.509
yes or whatever and I've asked a question in

00:25:58.509 --> 00:26:01.730
front of a K2 meter before and I've seen the

00:26:01.730 --> 00:26:04.210
thing spike as soon as I've asked a question

00:26:04.460 --> 00:26:08.759
and you go how the fuck did that happen? but

00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:15.519
because it just timed well and I wasn't thinking

00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.289
about what's going on around me with everybody

00:26:18.289 --> 00:26:22.420
with their mobile phones or anything in the air

00:26:22.420 --> 00:26:25.119
somebody turned on a light switch for example

00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:29.799
I thought that was paranormal one of my first

00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:33.900
paranormal hunts was paranormal investigations

00:26:33.900 --> 00:26:39.000
was a public event at Oxford Castle and there

00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:41.660
was fucking tons of people there was like 60

00:26:41.660 --> 00:26:44.569
people there it was mental had some good stuff

00:26:44.569 --> 00:26:51.200
happen but again the K2 meter was a tool that

00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.720
was being used and I understand why and like

00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.650
you say they're very accessible to people Especially

00:26:57.650 --> 00:27:03.180
if you're investigating on a budget Because some

00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:07.559
equipment some the official REM pod itself is

00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:15.539
fucking stupid money and yes But they they're

00:27:15.539 --> 00:27:18.619
very quick to give a result and they flash they're

00:27:18.619 --> 00:27:21.269
great for tick -tock lives They're great for

00:27:21.269 --> 00:27:24.299
YouTube videos. They're great for the visual

00:27:24.299 --> 00:27:28.710
side. But again, no signs behind it and We I

00:27:28.710 --> 00:27:30.750
don't I don't think the last when was the last

00:27:30.750 --> 00:27:33.730
time we've used a k2 meter years probably now

00:27:33.730 --> 00:27:37.700
My favorite problem as well is especially the

00:27:37.700 --> 00:27:41.460
typical one I try thinking if I even had mine

00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:43.640
to even like a sort of shoulder camber But I

00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.339
can only think I've got one is best that the

00:27:46.339 --> 00:27:48.819
most popular one is what the black one? With

00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:50.740
the sort of sticky stick at the top with the

00:27:50.740 --> 00:27:53.839
foot five lights on Because they're cheaper as

00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:55.880
well. They're just not accurate at all because

00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.519
you can't get more expensive ones that are bit

00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.700
more professional and not saying any more festival

00:28:00.700 --> 00:28:03.490
for ghost hunting but They're gonna be more accurate

00:28:03.490 --> 00:28:05.170
to where the actual fluctuations are. Whereas

00:28:05.170 --> 00:28:08.009
these cheap plastic ones that a couple of quid

00:28:08.009 --> 00:28:10.509
literally on temporary like three or four quid

00:28:10.509 --> 00:28:12.210
like they're just not even accurate in terms

00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:15.430
of even monitoring the fluctuations anyway, it's

00:28:15.430 --> 00:28:18.730
just might as well just be a random light generator

00:28:18.730 --> 00:28:22.470
like yeah, it's that's how much useful they are

00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:27.619
for me at this point and I think also that People

00:28:27.619 --> 00:28:30.359
aren't aware that you should try and do a basery

00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.380
if you're going to use one Check out the air

00:28:33.380 --> 00:28:36.220
the room you're in before you do anything because

00:28:36.220 --> 00:28:39.150
you might go past a plug socket that you didn't

00:28:39.150 --> 00:28:44.509
know about or a an electricity sort of Line or

00:28:44.509 --> 00:28:48.660
whatever you want to call it a power cable And

00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:51.019
if you were to put your K2 meter on a table that's

00:28:51.019 --> 00:28:55.900
near it it might well fluctuate randomly and

00:28:55.900 --> 00:28:58.619
you might notice that when somebody turns a light

00:28:58.619 --> 00:29:01.700
on in another part of the building or or somebody

00:29:01.700 --> 00:29:04.059
turns their phone on the other side of a wall

00:29:04.059 --> 00:29:07.539
but it's close by that you might get a spike

00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.259
and um or your own one like you say you're on

00:29:11.259 --> 00:29:14.680
tiktok live you're streaming your phone is is

00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.619
connecting on the wi -fi or the the mobile network

00:29:17.980 --> 00:29:23.519
and um it's I think I think a PSA on that is

00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:26.180
like I mentioned about the base readings Is the

00:29:26.180 --> 00:29:27.819
heart like say any of this stuff you are using

00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:30.400
it go ahead. No, I mean, it's your investigation.

00:29:30.859 --> 00:29:33.059
You leave it works We're just trying to kind

00:29:33.059 --> 00:29:36.619
of point out the flaws in this equipment. You

00:29:36.619 --> 00:29:39.200
are going to do the base reading Like it's got

00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.359
me like proper details. I go into each corner

00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.339
of the room You want to hold the EMF upside down

00:29:44.339 --> 00:29:46.660
right way up left and right because even holds

00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:48.599
it upside down one in the same position can give

00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:52.539
different results on EMF When we do stuff We

00:29:52.539 --> 00:29:55.509
have a rental stuff with Abby We have the temperature

00:29:55.509 --> 00:29:58.190
guns. We're checking all temperatures in different

00:29:58.190 --> 00:30:00.809
parts of each room. And so we do have that base

00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:03.609
reading. So if we say, oh, we've got a cold spot

00:30:03.609 --> 00:30:06.450
or a hot spot, we identify them before we even

00:30:06.450 --> 00:30:09.269
do anything paranormal. And that is, you're all

00:30:09.269 --> 00:30:11.309
going to use this stuff. Or click the base reading,

00:30:11.390 --> 00:30:13.789
spend an hour sitting in the room in silence,

00:30:14.029 --> 00:30:15.710
hearing the noises, hear what noises the house

00:30:15.710 --> 00:30:18.829
make. And you can hear cars go past or people

00:30:18.829 --> 00:30:22.039
walking past or people's cars in the background.

00:30:23.390 --> 00:30:25.869
cold spots, warm spots, all this stuff. You can

00:30:25.869 --> 00:30:30.369
get as much of that as possible and you have

00:30:30.369 --> 00:30:34.410
a bit more of kind of eligibility for using this

00:30:34.410 --> 00:30:36.710
equipment, I guess, because you've got something

00:30:36.710 --> 00:30:39.549
to go off a bit more sort of process where we're

00:30:39.549 --> 00:30:42.940
not just walking to a place. And yeah, I got

00:30:42.940 --> 00:30:45.380
me going off, but like I say, there's always.

00:30:45.910 --> 00:30:49.269
There's a cable pan that well, so we go off 24

00:30:49.269 --> 00:30:52.450
hours a day here, but like in this location Well,

00:30:52.490 --> 00:30:54.130
because don't know that we just can't believe

00:30:54.130 --> 00:30:57.609
it's or pass it off. I guess there's a paranormal

00:30:57.609 --> 00:31:00.930
It's interesting as well because say we've been

00:31:00.930 --> 00:31:03.430
on takes on live at priest cottage, for example

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:06.779
oh you go in the priest's room up in the priest's

00:31:06.779 --> 00:31:13.490
bedroom and the girls from FX paranormal have

00:31:13.490 --> 00:31:16.099
been in the live chat And they'll go you will

00:31:16.099 --> 00:31:18.480
get an emf spike there because there's a power

00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.220
cable just there they've also put posts up as

00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:24.220
well underneath the stickers and like Emf hotspot

00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:27.259
emf hotspot emf hotspot. That's really good.

00:31:27.259 --> 00:31:29.480
So straight away. You're kind of ruling out.

00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:33.089
Yeah Some of this stuff straight away and whilst

00:31:33.470 --> 00:31:37.880
It could be paranormal you have to You have to

00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.029
think logically You have to go what could be

00:31:41.029 --> 00:31:43.470
causing this particular piece of equipment to

00:31:43.470 --> 00:31:47.170
go off? Okay, I've discounted EMF. I've discounted

00:31:47.170 --> 00:31:51.970
a power socket discounted. I'm in a Crypt in

00:31:51.970 --> 00:31:55.049
a thousand year old castle. There's no electricity

00:31:55.140 --> 00:32:00.099
in the local area of the vicinity The things

00:32:00.099 --> 00:32:02.740
going off. Okay. Has anybody got a phone on?

00:32:03.140 --> 00:32:05.019
Okay, switch all your phones off or put them

00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:07.779
into flight mode So they're not attempting to

00:32:07.779 --> 00:32:11.369
connect elsewhere Put your phone near the thing

00:32:11.589 --> 00:32:16.720
just to see if it reacts then if stuff starts

00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.799
going off that's more interesting like you say

00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.859
you've got more of a a case for it being something

00:32:23.859 --> 00:32:29.150
unnatural than didn't you have if you like you

00:32:29.150 --> 00:32:31.150
say just walk into a room and it starts going

00:32:31.150 --> 00:32:33.769
off and you're going fucking hell there's ghosts

00:32:33.769 --> 00:32:39.990
everywhere and so it a lot of the time it's common

00:32:39.990 --> 00:32:42.849
sense use your common sense with these pieces

00:32:42.849 --> 00:32:47.460
of equipment that cat bowl was built to entertain

00:32:47.460 --> 00:32:51.400
a fucking cat or a dog not to pick up ghosts

00:32:51.430 --> 00:32:54.549
not to entertain thousands of people on tiktok

00:32:54.549 --> 00:33:00.460
yeah so and again if it works for you the cat

00:33:00.460 --> 00:33:03.200
bowl that's fine but you need to be aware that

00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.480
it was never designed for anything other than

00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.380
keeping a fucking cat entertained and even after

00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:11.809
a while they probably just go fucking load of

00:33:11.809 --> 00:33:16.240
shit but the k2 meter give me something fluffy

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.240
yeah give me a mouse And we're happy. The K2

00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.259
meter as well. If you can use it properly and

00:33:26.509 --> 00:33:28.910
get, like you said, get, take those base readings.

00:33:29.569 --> 00:33:31.589
So in any fluctuations you're getting after you've

00:33:31.589 --> 00:33:33.869
taken the base readings, you can refer back and

00:33:33.869 --> 00:33:35.990
go, actually I was in that corner and we did

00:33:35.990 --> 00:33:37.869
have spikes from it early on in the evening.

00:33:38.529 --> 00:33:41.529
So we can discount that or go, actually it's

00:33:41.529 --> 00:33:46.119
probably not anything paranormal. It's something

00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.099
a bit normal. Also, like you said about using

00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:51.680
the common sense. I think for any equipment,

00:33:52.549 --> 00:33:56.150
take 10 minutes and just Google how they work.

00:33:56.730 --> 00:33:58.869
Yeah. And not read it off a paranormal website.

00:33:59.450 --> 00:34:02.029
Read it from an actual EVA, like a K2 meter.

00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.900
They use it mainly for electricians and plumbers,

00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.619
stuff like that. Go on the electrician's website

00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:09.519
and see what they use K2 meters for and how they

00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.719
work. Don't go off paranormal .com by my equipment

00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:17.920
website. Read 10 minutes just to read what your

00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:19.760
equipment actually does and how it works and

00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.869
then. kind of take it from there and the thing

00:34:22.869 --> 00:34:25.989
is if you buy any paranormal equipment from our

00:34:25.989 --> 00:34:32.250
website it will say normally that you can't guarantee

00:34:32.250 --> 00:34:35.210
that this equipment will even detect spirits

00:34:35.210 --> 00:34:41.110
or whatever so just bear it in mind basically

00:34:41.650 --> 00:34:45.340
discount a cat bowl straight away for definite

00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:49.440
the k2 meter that's more that's more on on it

00:34:49.500 --> 00:34:52.889
as long as you use it properly or can show that

00:34:52.889 --> 00:34:56.360
you've you've taken the readings and I think

00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:58.539
if you can do that that gives credibility to

00:34:58.539 --> 00:35:00.420
any results that you get out of the ordinary

00:35:01.059 --> 00:35:08.039
so yeah next one this would be a controversial

00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:13.670
one spirit boxes so why are they unreliable so

00:35:13.670 --> 00:35:18.690
a spirit box is essentially a broken radio it's

00:35:18.690 --> 00:35:21.929
a radio that just scans through AM and FM frequencies

00:35:21.929 --> 00:35:25.630
at certain speeds you'll see it everywhere going

00:35:28.489 --> 00:35:33.530
and then it'll say a word now this will be controversial

00:35:33.530 --> 00:35:41.199
to people so random radio frequencies will pop

00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:48.389
in and you'll get a word and then it'll go again

00:35:50.150 --> 00:35:58.039
people will say that they hear things and they're

00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:05.199
interpreting messages now essentially and I'm

00:36:05.269 --> 00:36:12.039
actually for this device So most responses are

00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.559
radio bleed and they are words on a radio. They

00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:20.980
are. You hear stuff and if you listen to certain

00:36:20.980 --> 00:36:23.719
YouTube channels they'll say it said stuff and

00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:26.869
it clearly doesn't. But because they flash the

00:36:26.869 --> 00:36:32.090
word up, brainstorm and green needle for example,

00:36:34.340 --> 00:36:37.250
that's what you hear and you'll see the word

00:36:37.250 --> 00:36:40.030
and you'll hear the word more often than not.

00:36:41.550 --> 00:36:46.010
So it is a device that audio pareidolia can play

00:36:46.010 --> 00:36:51.510
its part. I love a spirit box It's what is one

00:36:51.510 --> 00:36:54.110
of the pieces of equipment that we use. Yeah

00:36:54.110 --> 00:37:03.940
It is classed as a device that can be sort of

00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:07.329
Biased towards the results you're getting you

00:37:07.329 --> 00:37:11.460
want to hear stuff about ghosts potentially you're

00:37:11.460 --> 00:37:15.619
gonna hear stuff but and I premise this as with

00:37:15.619 --> 00:37:18.920
a massive but we have had some of the most amazing

00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:23.309
results from these devices that's the only thing

00:37:23.309 --> 00:37:26.789
that keeps me going with the spirit box is the

00:37:26.789 --> 00:37:32.980
results that that we've had because like 99 percent

00:37:32.980 --> 00:37:36.380
of it is the radio presenter or bit of a song

00:37:36.380 --> 00:37:40.559
coming through and but the ones that I mean we've

00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:44.480
had some amazing you can call it coincidence

00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:48.219
I mean, that's all we can kind of say is in terms

00:37:48.219 --> 00:37:51.119
of saying people's name and stuff like that,

00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:52.719
which won't go into because we talked about a

00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.099
lot on the podcast. Yes. But one of the experiences

00:37:55.099 --> 00:37:59.650
I had was where I was hearing a man and a woman

00:37:59.849 --> 00:38:01.909
and the man was being very, very vocal, aggressive

00:38:01.909 --> 00:38:03.849
towards the woman in my ears. They wouldn't be

00:38:03.849 --> 00:38:05.409
doing, yes, you need a spirit box to the essence

00:38:05.409 --> 00:38:09.119
method. And because when you're doing the frequencies,

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:11.840
you'll hear the same sort of voice come around

00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.619
again, like. six seconds later because you've

00:38:14.619 --> 00:38:15.780
gone through the frequencies and you're going

00:38:15.780 --> 00:38:17.519
back on back to that radio station so you hear

00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.699
that same voice again but what i was hearing

00:38:20.699 --> 00:38:24.320
was the same voice on all the frequencies so

00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.659
it was there the whole time which is one that

00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:28.300
i can't explain because it can't just be radio

00:38:28.300 --> 00:38:30.099
bleed because it was on every single channel

00:38:30.099 --> 00:38:33.079
it was like it was in my ears or in the device

00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:36.369
itself not a bit of radio bleed coming through

00:38:36.369 --> 00:38:37.510
from the presenter and that's the only thing

00:38:37.510 --> 00:38:40.690
where i think that i can't explain that one that's

00:38:40.690 --> 00:38:42.510
the only thing that kind of keeps me the answers

00:38:42.510 --> 00:38:45.380
we had where it's just been even massive massive

00:38:45.380 --> 00:38:47.539
coincidences because the responses we've had

00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:50.920
to specific questions that have been perfect

00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:55.960
answers like repeatedly um and hearing the same

00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:59.960
voice through all the frequencies so like the

00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:02.940
whole i think i spent a full three four minutes

00:39:02.940 --> 00:39:05.260
before i had enough because i couldn't listen

00:39:05.260 --> 00:39:08.219
to this guy anymore just the whole time is this

00:39:08.219 --> 00:39:11.280
voice in my ear on on every single frequency

00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.940
so what how does that explain by radio bleed

00:39:14.179 --> 00:39:19.679
yeah i think um so the first time i ever used

00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.760
the spirit box was weirdly at oxford castle for

00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:28.420
my first main proper um paranormal investigation

00:39:28.420 --> 00:39:31.480
and i was in a cell i've got the video i think

00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:35.280
we've got it up on the tiktok and um it was in

00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.039
a cell in oxford prison because oxford castle

00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:43.269
and oxford prisoner they like connected and the

00:39:43.269 --> 00:39:47.659
walls are like Feet thick concrete. I couldn't

00:39:47.659 --> 00:39:50.159
even I wasn't even getting radio signal properly.

00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.480
There's no channels coming through It was just

00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:57.630
and anybody uses spirit box will know what that

00:39:57.630 --> 00:40:03.340
sound is quite repetitive Anyway, they um, I

00:40:03.340 --> 00:40:08.340
had the word hello was said over about two second

00:40:08.340 --> 00:40:12.699
period and It was across multiple frequencies

00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:18.750
so like you've had how can that can't just be

00:40:18.750 --> 00:40:21.809
radio bleed because as soon as it misses it like

00:40:21.809 --> 00:40:25.929
goes to the next couple of stations or the next

00:40:25.929 --> 00:40:32.639
frequency is looking at it it can't be if it's

00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:36.099
the same voice across multiple frequencies it

00:40:36.099 --> 00:40:41.610
it doesn't compute so although we're saying that

00:40:41.610 --> 00:40:43.949
these are broken radios and you need to be aware

00:40:43.949 --> 00:40:47.030
of the fact that you will hear stuff You can

00:40:47.030 --> 00:40:49.090
hear a lot of stuff, depending on the sweep speed

00:40:49.090 --> 00:40:53.159
and that, you'll hear a lot of stuff. But the

00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:56.139
results we've had, and we've got on video, we've

00:40:56.139 --> 00:41:00.199
had it say Abbe's name, like you said, you had

00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.360
the conversation between two people, and you

00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:08.429
were also thinking about a person, and it said,

00:41:08.829 --> 00:41:11.969
that's not me, I'm not him. And if you don't

00:41:11.969 --> 00:41:15.010
know what we're all about, go back to loads of

00:41:15.010 --> 00:41:16.469
episodes where we've talked about it. That was

00:41:16.469 --> 00:41:18.789
five years ago. Yeah, it was. That was a kind

00:41:18.789 --> 00:41:23.739
of chase. so they are essentially a broken radio

00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:30.530
in a way but the history of the spirit box and

00:41:30.530 --> 00:41:34.090
particularly the estus method it's fascinating

00:41:34.150 --> 00:41:37.210
we're not going to go into it because we'll probably

00:41:37.210 --> 00:41:39.389
talk about it next year once we've done all the

00:41:39.389 --> 00:41:45.579
talks on it but the way it was developed the

00:41:45.579 --> 00:41:53.960
method I can't see how when you get results I

00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.400
think they are bang on those results. So although

00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:01.860
this is on our list, you need to be aware that

00:42:01.860 --> 00:42:04.199
you will hear radio frequency, you will hear

00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:05.840
Scott, well you probably won't hear Scott Mills

00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.659
anymore, but you will hear Greg Jones. That's

00:42:09.659 --> 00:42:11.280
the first thing I was reading about Scott Mills

00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.480
earlier in the news, just popped into my head

00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.119
and I thought that's probably not a best, you

00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.579
won't hear Scott Mills. You might hear Greg James,

00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.880
you might hear, I don't know, Dave Pearce on

00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:28.239
radio. Paris Monroe or Even the witch I have

00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.599
no idea. Are you talking about a crank presenters?

00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:40.039
Okay You might hear Gerard way on a dead mouse

00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:45.079
song playing and it will say your name potentially

00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:51.019
be aware that You will hear stuff and you're

00:42:51.019 --> 00:42:52.699
wanting to hear stuff about ghosts. You want

00:42:52.699 --> 00:42:55.019
to hear stuff about spirits. You're wanting to

00:42:55.019 --> 00:42:59.760
hear stuff so chances are your brain might interpret

00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.500
what you're hearing with more of a paranormal

00:43:02.500 --> 00:43:08.739
bias and sometimes you can't even you can't make

00:43:08.739 --> 00:43:10.840
it out and that frustrates me at times as well

00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.710
when I'm doing Estes but if you can trust the

00:43:14.710 --> 00:43:18.210
people you're with like when we do it I know

00:43:18.210 --> 00:43:19.909
that what you're saying when you're under the

00:43:19.909 --> 00:43:24.920
headphones and the eye mask that what you're

00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:28.860
saying is what you're hearing I went to Festival

00:43:28.860 --> 00:43:30.820
of the Unexplained last year and they'd done

00:43:30.820 --> 00:43:34.599
an experiment where they had two people listening

00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.599
on a split of headphones, two pair of headphones.

00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:41.679
One person asking the question, sorry it was

00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:46.610
three people and then they got people to say

00:43:46.610 --> 00:43:48.710
what they were hearing and if you both heard

00:43:48.710 --> 00:43:52.159
the same word you could go well actually that

00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:56.599
probably was the word. So it was like a confirmation.

00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.300
Of the word itself, which is good. That's a good

00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:03.920
way of doing it, but we've had amazing results

00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.860
So I can't knock this particular one, but there

00:44:06.860 --> 00:44:10.199
are obviously pitfalls to using it I think like

00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.179
you say audio power to all your brain trying

00:44:12.179 --> 00:44:15.179
to hear patterns. It was kind of expect the words

00:44:15.179 --> 00:44:18.000
come next Yeah, you kind of think it's like when

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.849
they do these reading tests and it's like it

00:44:20.849 --> 00:44:23.130
throws out loads of words and you're expecting

00:44:23.130 --> 00:44:25.489
what words gonna come because you just use the

00:44:25.489 --> 00:44:28.199
patterns and stuff and also be wary of names

00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.500
because obviously a very common thing in the

00:44:30.500 --> 00:44:32.019
paranormal is to ask us can you tell me your

00:44:32.019 --> 00:44:34.800
name anybody here with us so you sort of want

00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.880
to hear names so name the ghost or name the haunted

00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.320
doll but then you think you listen to radio stations

00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.559
where you got presenters names the news being

00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.500
read out about people sports people being talked

00:44:48.500 --> 00:44:51.780
about singers and being introduced and All these

00:44:51.780 --> 00:44:53.539
things where there's a lot of names being said

00:44:53.539 --> 00:44:55.900
on on radio shows in general So you are going

00:44:55.900 --> 00:44:57.820
to hear names some people. Oh, let's say the

00:44:57.820 --> 00:45:00.039
name donald comes through It's like fucking donald

00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.239
trump. Like it's probably the news. Is it like

00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:04.079
six o 'clock is on. Yeah, we probably got the

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.219
news on Coming through the station or whatever

00:45:06.219 --> 00:45:08.820
whereas people buy oh my god got a name Now that

00:45:08.820 --> 00:45:10.519
doll can call donald for the rest of his life

00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.679
now. It can be sold on ebay It's a haunted doll

00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.500
called donald's like yeah And also you think

00:45:17.500 --> 00:45:19.739
you've depending what frequency you get you might

00:45:19.739 --> 00:45:24.480
get say The like the love hour or something like

00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:25.940
that. So you're going to get loads of songs that

00:45:25.940 --> 00:45:28.960
have got emotional words in it like love All

00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:33.119
those so it's worth It's worth thinking that

00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.280
at certain times like you say you do it on the

00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.760
hour chance. Are you going to get all the news?

00:45:39.090 --> 00:45:40.650
Popular stories of the day are going to be on

00:45:40.650 --> 00:45:46.840
there. So It's it's worth just again Making notes

00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.480
of when these words come through what time is

00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.980
it? Paranormal that you were the word Donald

00:45:52.980 --> 00:45:55.360
as a name when you've said can you tell me the

00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.000
name of this? Darwin it says Donald and it's

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.860
one minute past six and talk about the Iran Missile

00:46:02.860 --> 00:46:07.190
crisis. So its chances are You it's just being

00:46:07.190 --> 00:46:10.010
aware really and again putting your sensible

00:46:10.010 --> 00:46:12.789
head on a lot of this is use it all sensibly

00:46:12.789 --> 00:46:19.869
I think Next one digital audio recorders for

00:46:19.869 --> 00:46:24.590
EVPs another one I quite like we don't use it

00:46:24.590 --> 00:46:28.130
so much because we do a lot of live streaming

00:46:28.130 --> 00:46:32.409
and we'll do a video filming but we don't really

00:46:32.539 --> 00:46:36.840
record for EVP do we we we sort of try and listen

00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:44.550
on the video for example or to get a DVP so for

00:46:44.550 --> 00:46:47.670
those that don't know EVPs or electronic voice

00:46:47.670 --> 00:46:51.769
phenomena you got your voice recorder can use

00:46:51.769 --> 00:46:55.159
your phone the recording function on your phone

00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:59.369
the voice notes or whatever you press record

00:46:59.369 --> 00:47:03.489
you ask a question you wait a few seconds stop

00:47:03.489 --> 00:47:10.750
it review it essentially yeah and you hope to

00:47:10.750 --> 00:47:15.889
pick up something pitfall that is you're gonna

00:47:15.889 --> 00:47:18.690
get background noise potentially you're gonna

00:47:18.690 --> 00:47:21.449
get digital artifacts if it's a digital tool

00:47:21.449 --> 00:47:24.320
voice recorder you might get a slight glitch

00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.619
at the time and it'll sound like something and

00:47:26.619 --> 00:47:29.019
then your brain goes I'm sure that just heard

00:47:29.019 --> 00:47:32.130
the word ash and then I'll go to you did you

00:47:32.130 --> 00:47:33.869
just hear the word ash in there and then all

00:47:33.869 --> 00:47:36.940
of a sudden your brain's going definitely says

00:47:36.940 --> 00:47:41.250
ash because I've told you that it said ash one

00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:45.320
of the things you mentioned a minute ago was

00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:49.719
the people walking past in a venue car noises

00:47:50.260 --> 00:47:53.000
those kind of things people talking as they're

00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:56.289
walking past the building And you don't hear

00:47:56.289 --> 00:47:58.369
it properly because you're so focused on the

00:47:58.369 --> 00:48:03.239
question, but you hear somebody go Hello as they're

00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:04.739
walking past because they might have just answered

00:48:04.739 --> 00:48:07.739
their phone And they've just said it just on

00:48:07.739 --> 00:48:10.599
this voice note because you didn't hear it But

00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:12.539
you can hear it when the playback and you've

00:48:12.539 --> 00:48:17.909
gone is anyone there and you can hear hello That's

00:48:17.909 --> 00:48:20.369
like likewise like because there's that method

00:48:20.369 --> 00:48:22.769
use an EVP those sort of like sort of a long

00:48:22.769 --> 00:48:25.429
form Where you leave it to be for an hour two

00:48:25.429 --> 00:48:28.940
hours? Locked off and then you go with you all

00:48:28.940 --> 00:48:32.760
later on or we sort of ask train mates for questions

00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:34.980
Listen to it back all in one go. So different

00:48:34.980 --> 00:48:38.119
ways of using it. Do you talk with you in 22

00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.590
hours worth of? sound footage You don't know

00:48:42.590 --> 00:48:44.849
what's going on that room at the time like you

00:48:44.849 --> 00:48:47.269
could do things like where you've offered your

00:48:47.269 --> 00:48:50.780
jacket and it's made a noise and you're not really

00:48:50.780 --> 00:48:52.380
thought about it in the moment, but he's picked

00:48:52.380 --> 00:48:54.949
it up as a weird noise that could even sound

00:48:54.949 --> 00:48:57.250
like a like a word or a voice or someone talking

00:48:57.250 --> 00:48:59.409
or someone saying something like that because

00:48:59.409 --> 00:49:01.469
you've forgotten that that happened or you didn't

00:49:01.469 --> 00:49:04.190
even think that that would matter you've got

00:49:04.190 --> 00:49:07.449
suddenly a cult ruffling is now some paranormal

00:49:07.449 --> 00:49:12.699
evidence that you've uh captured yeah it's um

00:49:12.699 --> 00:49:16.119
i do like it i think if i was someone say what

00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:17.820
paranormal equipment should you have i think

00:49:17.820 --> 00:49:22.079
something as basic as a good voice recorder not

00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:26.480
dr -60 No, they are 60. They have many thousands

00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:31.039
of pounds. They are to buy nowadays. They're

00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:34.360
fucking horrific as well. If I picked one up

00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.800
for a couple of quid at a car boot sale, and

00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:41.900
I used it, I'd go, what is this shit? I would

00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:44.179
probably throw it, not realising how expensive

00:49:44.179 --> 00:49:48.440
it is. But they're fucking awful. Excuse my French,

00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:54.050
but they are awful. And I can't see... There's

00:49:54.050 --> 00:49:58.159
very famous... teams they use the dr60 on live

00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.880
streams everything you gotta think why are they

00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.559
spending thousands of pounds to buy one of these

00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.380
because why would you spend that much on a voice

00:50:07.380 --> 00:50:12.280
recorder phone exactly like you buy good ones

00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.860
for 30 quid 30 40 quid you buy cheap ones for

00:50:14.860 --> 00:50:18.119
tenor but being the 30 to 50 quid range probably

00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:19.880
where you want to sort of look out for a good

00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:24.449
proper decent one yeah that's easily user friendly

00:50:24.449 --> 00:50:27.679
as well But people paid thousands of pounds for

00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.969
these out of manufactured years old, decades

00:50:31.969 --> 00:50:36.269
old voice recorders because they use them for

00:50:36.269 --> 00:50:39.010
ulterior motives. They know it gives off false

00:50:39.010 --> 00:50:41.489
positives and they know they're going to make

00:50:41.489 --> 00:50:43.769
money on their TikTok stream or their YouTube

00:50:43.769 --> 00:50:48.340
videos. So it's an investment in giving people

00:50:48.340 --> 00:50:52.440
off basically. Yeah. Yeah. And again, it's like

00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:56.559
the catboards. It gives a result. Guaranteed

00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:01.440
results guaranteed results. So again pareidolia

00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:05.780
audio pareidolia You you can sometimes hear what

00:51:05.780 --> 00:51:08.619
you want green needle and brainstorm is the absolute

00:51:08.619 --> 00:51:10.820
classic and for anybody that doesn't know what

00:51:10.820 --> 00:51:16.849
that means ASAP 13 focused come along to one

00:51:16.849 --> 00:51:19.110
of our talks and we'll explain and demonstrate

00:51:19.110 --> 00:51:27.090
that For you and you will be astounded How we

00:51:27.090 --> 00:51:34.809
can make you hear things so Bottom line EVPs

00:51:34.809 --> 00:51:40.070
can be subjective. They can be great. For example,

00:51:40.070 --> 00:51:47.269
we go to priest cottage and There is a public

00:51:47.269 --> 00:51:50.639
path and road next door There's a kebab shop

00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.019
that you can sort of a fast food shop around

00:51:53.019 --> 00:51:57.489
the backs always so Take your time to listen

00:51:57.489 --> 00:52:00.349
to the building Take your time to listen to what's

00:52:00.349 --> 00:52:03.070
happening outside as you walk into a location

00:52:03.289 --> 00:52:06.800
how close to your road is it a busy road like

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:11.780
priest cottage is on quite a busy road so you

00:52:11.780 --> 00:52:13.920
and i'm only using priest cottage as an example

00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:17.110
because like you mentioned they put signs up

00:52:17.110 --> 00:52:21.329
about emf you can hear road noise we've had good

00:52:21.329 --> 00:52:26.900
good stuff happen at priest cottage but you just

00:52:26.900 --> 00:52:28.639
need to be aware of you but if you're in the

00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.949
middle of a forest a mile away from the nearest

00:52:31.949 --> 00:52:36.670
person and you get something on your EVP that

00:52:36.670 --> 00:52:38.730
sounds like a voice and it's definitely not one

00:52:38.730 --> 00:52:43.949
of you or your group probably start time to start

00:52:43.949 --> 00:52:48.440
worrying about what's around you or if you hear

00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:50.940
like some kind of weird bigfoot scream in the

00:52:50.940 --> 00:52:55.119
middle of a forest midnight like we have it's

00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:57.039
mad because i've mentioned this before but we

00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.719
were on a bigfoot hunt again in the middle of

00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.519
a forest nowhere near anywhere nowhere near where

00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.869
cars can park or even access like We were deep

00:53:06.869 --> 00:53:09.989
in this big foot hunt and all we could hear was

00:53:09.989 --> 00:53:13.710
like the beep beep of a car locking Like it's

00:53:13.710 --> 00:53:16.949
like what is that noise is like? How can we be

00:53:16.949 --> 00:53:19.289
hearing a car door locking? We are in the middle

00:53:19.289 --> 00:53:21.369
of a forest, but when we tried to find the source

00:53:21.369 --> 00:53:23.230
of it We just couldn't like we couldn't get closer

00:53:23.230 --> 00:53:26.650
to it. We couldn't find it. It's just like it

00:53:26.650 --> 00:53:30.210
surrounds us this Repeated not repeated, but

00:53:30.210 --> 00:53:33.030
like every few minutes or for like half an hour

00:53:33.030 --> 00:53:35.280
paid us this Like something was unlocking and

00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:39.320
locking the car door. It's like, what? Like,

00:53:39.500 --> 00:53:41.219
I can never, I still haven't been able to explain

00:53:41.219 --> 00:53:45.039
that. Like, that's very paranormal, but there's

00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:46.539
no one else in the forest with us that we could

00:53:46.539 --> 00:53:50.309
see. Like, but there's this car locking noise

00:53:50.309 --> 00:53:54.949
that is just, yeah, weird. Very weird. And that

00:53:54.949 --> 00:53:57.849
weird sound in Delamere, we're fucking miles

00:53:57.849 --> 00:54:02.070
from anywhere. I say miles, not miles, but we're...

00:54:02.070 --> 00:54:05.110
far enough away from a main road a car park or

00:54:05.110 --> 00:54:10.690
anything like that and we're hearing weird noises

00:54:10.690 --> 00:54:13.110
mimicking what you'd done about five minutes

00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:19.750
before it's weird a big foot weep the big foot

00:54:19.750 --> 00:54:26.260
weeps yeah that was funny that was funny so be

00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:28.780
aware of your surroundings be aware of anything

00:54:28.780 --> 00:54:33.960
that could be noise interference and chances

00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.539
are if it's somebody saying hello clear as day

00:54:36.539 --> 00:54:39.690
and you just haven't heard it if you're by a

00:54:39.690 --> 00:54:41.550
main road it's probably somebody walking past

00:54:41.550 --> 00:54:43.570
I'm not saying it will always be somebody walking

00:54:43.570 --> 00:54:50.230
past like you go to Yorkingshead in Chester there

00:54:50.230 --> 00:54:54.389
is like an alleyway and road just next to the

00:54:54.389 --> 00:54:56.550
side so if you're in one of the rooms that backs

00:54:56.550 --> 00:54:59.789
onto that you need to be aware that there you

00:54:59.789 --> 00:55:03.760
might hear people walking up and down And it

00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:05.360
was near the town center. So it was like a Saturday

00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.860
night Friday night at one in the morning It's

00:55:07.860 --> 00:55:10.260
gonna be who go walking back back home from the

00:55:10.260 --> 00:55:14.000
town center Yeah, exactly. So just just gotta

00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:16.260
be sensible with what you're listening to and

00:55:16.260 --> 00:55:22.119
going. Well, actually it could be Whatever. So

00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:31.360
the last one the big one the REM pod so REM pods

00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.820
Okay, it's one where we use them. I like them

00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:41.860
in general, but I think a lot of it comes down

00:55:41.860 --> 00:55:45.159
to one type of M -Pod you use, because there's

00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.539
one which you probably see the most often, which

00:55:47.539 --> 00:55:51.739
isn't even that cheap. You're talking close to

00:55:51.739 --> 00:55:56.679
£100 just for this basic one that just says M

00:55:56.679 --> 00:56:00.519
-Pod on it, but I find that one so unreliable.

00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:04.780
It seems to malfunction very, very easily. You

00:56:04.780 --> 00:56:06.780
can turn the sensitivity up and down, I think

00:56:06.780 --> 00:56:12.250
as well, can't you? Is it that one? It's sort

00:56:12.250 --> 00:56:16.409
of a black circle base with a red top on it and

00:56:16.409 --> 00:56:19.650
stuff like that. You can either have just sound

00:56:19.650 --> 00:56:22.329
or just lights or lights and sound going off

00:56:22.329 --> 00:56:25.809
and kind of adjust it but it's just so unreliable.

00:56:26.050 --> 00:56:29.030
That particular one and it's not cheap to buy

00:56:29.030 --> 00:56:32.510
like to buy a new or whatever. Walkie -talkies

00:56:32.510 --> 00:56:37.690
set them off. Walkie -talkies set them off. The

00:56:37.690 --> 00:56:40.280
batteries just Playing up in if the new batteries

00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:46.030
can play up and just that I found It's just a

00:56:46.030 --> 00:56:49.239
cheap bit of plastic A lot of them are just cheap

00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:51.199
bit of plastic and a bit of metal and that's

00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.960
all it is And they sell it for a hundred pound.

00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:58.789
Yeah And you can get good point again, I think

00:56:58.789 --> 00:57:01.269
there are good ones you can get because we've

00:57:01.269 --> 00:57:04.440
used ones where They are like literally they

00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.360
will not go off until you actually touch them

00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.369
and There've been many many investigations where

00:57:10.369 --> 00:57:11.949
they've not made a sound, they've not gone off

00:57:11.949 --> 00:57:15.130
whatsoever. So when that goes off, I think, fuck,

00:57:15.750 --> 00:57:18.530
somebody just actually touched that. Well, then

00:57:18.530 --> 00:57:21.380
one of the other ones where it goes off, willy

00:57:21.380 --> 00:57:26.119
nilly it seems. If somebody says to you, I love

00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:27.800
this piece of equipment because it goes off all

00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:32.050
the time. It's probably faulty or too sensitive.

00:57:32.690 --> 00:57:34.190
Now I'll tell you what, the best one I've ever

00:57:34.190 --> 00:57:37.269
seen, the one the girls have got, they've got

00:57:37.269 --> 00:57:41.519
the coffin shaped one that never goes off. but

00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:46.760
when it goes off you're like fuck that same thing

00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.739
that you yeah we've had it in Sarah's living

00:57:49.739 --> 00:57:53.519
room and we specifically said it went off in

00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.440
front of this doll and specifically said can

00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:58.320
you stop that now and as soon as we said stop

00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:00.659
that now it went off and it was going for ages

00:58:00.659 --> 00:58:03.840
and we just we didn't like when repeat we asked

00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:05.579
multiple times we didn't say can you stop that

00:58:05.579 --> 00:58:08.079
please can you stop that please can you stop

00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:10.960
that please can you stop that please because

00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:13.920
at that point it will stop at some point but

00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.440
we said it the first time we said can you stop

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.630
that please boom off and then i think we said

00:58:19.630 --> 00:58:21.750
can you do make the noise again and start doing

00:58:21.750 --> 00:58:27.139
it again straight like this but that one has

00:58:27.139 --> 00:58:32.300
been that one's been really good but all manner

00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:35.460
of people can build them all manner of people

00:58:35.460 --> 00:58:39.420
do build them and again like other pieces of

00:58:39.420 --> 00:58:46.400
equipment there's no build quality no defined

00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:49.190
build quality So you might get somebody with

00:58:49.190 --> 00:58:51.429
no experience building one. You might get somebody

00:58:51.429 --> 00:58:53.510
with years worth of experience building one.

00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:58.699
And all they do is essentially sort of do what

00:58:58.699 --> 00:59:04.050
a K2 meter does, almost, but with a bit more

00:59:04.050 --> 00:59:05.170
bows and whistles. You're sort of asking the

00:59:05.170 --> 00:59:08.449
ghost to do the same thing to it, like interact

00:59:08.449 --> 00:59:14.389
with it. Walk to that or touch the aerial and

00:59:14.389 --> 00:59:17.829
say it often. And again, with like the other

00:59:17.829 --> 00:59:20.829
things, they can be triggered by like phones

00:59:20.829 --> 00:59:25.599
and radios and movement. So because depending

00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:27.820
on how they're set up and again, how sensitive

00:59:27.820 --> 00:59:30.699
it is, they can be triggered very easily. And

00:59:30.699 --> 00:59:33.800
you'll see it. You'll find certain channels that

00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:35.880
always have activity and they always use the

00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:37.739
same sort of devices. Because again, going back

00:59:37.739 --> 00:59:39.159
to the false positives, they're not going to

00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.199
get results on this. And people eat it up. That's

00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:45.980
the problem is it's just so many people would

00:59:45.980 --> 00:59:52.610
just believe anything in front of them. You could

00:59:52.610 --> 00:59:55.250
tell someone that I faked this and that this

00:59:55.250 --> 00:59:57.449
is how I faked it and they still won't believe

00:59:57.449 --> 01:00:00.909
that it's fake. They just blindly will believe

01:00:01.030 --> 01:00:03.909
anything and there's a lot of people and that's

01:00:03.909 --> 01:00:06.190
what these channels target because they will

01:00:06.190 --> 01:00:09.030
get the ad revenue or people buying the stuff

01:00:09.030 --> 01:00:11.610
because they believe that everything that happens

01:00:11.610 --> 01:00:18.119
is real. It's kind of frustrating because You've

01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:21.280
been people have been took for mugs like these

01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.360
creators are laughing at you like They would

01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:26.500
go off they will finish that tick tock line.

01:00:26.579 --> 01:00:28.679
I think we just made 300 quid off these idiots.

01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:32.199
I they literally Yeah, that's why they're doing

01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:34.539
it. I take you for a ride and people are giving

01:00:34.539 --> 01:00:36.780
them money and they're laughing at you Yeah,

01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:41.699
like it just it's crazy Yeah, so it's it's worth

01:00:41.699 --> 01:00:45.300
knowing how these pieces of equipment work the

01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:49.340
pitfalls of using them By all means use them.

01:00:49.380 --> 01:00:51.639
I wouldn't use a cat ball, but anything else

01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.280
on that list. I would probably go Spirit Box

01:00:54.280 --> 01:01:02.650
love it. The Estes method we've had so many amazing

01:01:02.650 --> 01:01:05.849
results with that We've been freaked out at 30

01:01:05.849 --> 01:01:09.030
East Drive whilst doing the Estes method, which

01:01:09.030 --> 01:01:15.769
is on our social media But I would say maybe

01:01:15.769 --> 01:01:18.289
on sort of the SMF of the spirit box kind of

01:01:18.289 --> 01:01:21.349
things if you can use or get a hold of a white

01:01:21.349 --> 01:01:24.190
noise generator Where it's not a radio station

01:01:24.190 --> 01:01:27.170
where yeah, you literally because I don't understand

01:01:27.170 --> 01:01:30.329
where the radio thing comes into it where It's

01:01:30.329 --> 01:01:32.570
the manipulating radio waves. What does that

01:01:32.570 --> 01:01:34.929
mean? Whereas he used white noise generator where

01:01:34.929 --> 01:01:37.739
it's throwing out noise There's different types

01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:40.519
of different noises that can throw out, but there's

01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:42.300
no radio signal in there There's no way that

01:01:42.300 --> 01:01:44.460
device can actually get a radio signal. So you

01:01:44.460 --> 01:01:47.230
know, it's not bleed if you then can hear a voice

01:01:47.230 --> 01:01:50.969
or words that's something definitely 100 % unusual

01:01:50.969 --> 01:01:54.670
because there is no radio station it's literally

01:01:54.670 --> 01:01:57.190
that device only creates that one noise so if

01:01:57.190 --> 01:01:58.969
something else comes out of it then you could

01:01:58.969 --> 01:02:01.010
say this is potentially being manipulated by

01:02:01.010 --> 01:02:06.099
an unknown but what about the word comes through

01:02:06.099 --> 01:02:09.099
on spirit box and it is a radio channel and it

01:02:09.099 --> 01:02:16.010
says help for example could be Beatles song For

01:02:16.010 --> 01:02:19.650
example, but that word came through at that particular

01:02:19.650 --> 01:02:22.829
time as it scanned that particular frequency

01:02:23.179 --> 01:02:26.940
as You've asked a particular question and you

01:02:26.940 --> 01:02:33.719
get a response that You were expect hoping to

01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:37.159
get not necessarily expecting but hoping to get

01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:42.869
in response to a question particularly with estes

01:02:42.869 --> 01:02:47.329
because The person who's saying the word is not

01:02:47.329 --> 01:02:50.889
the person who's listening The person who's asking

01:02:50.889 --> 01:02:52.869
the question is not the person listening to the

01:02:52.869 --> 01:02:56.929
radio. So there's you've almost got that barrier

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:01.400
by me saying Can you tell me the name of somebody

01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:05.860
in this group and in you? Listening all of a

01:03:05.860 --> 01:03:09.000
sudden go Abby There would be no way that you

01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.199
could pretend that may have it may have been

01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:13.139
manipulated sound It may have been the word on

01:03:13.139 --> 01:03:17.210
the radio at that time but why did that word

01:03:17.210 --> 01:03:21.860
come through at that time when I asked that particular

01:03:21.860 --> 01:03:27.619
question and I think if you get in results where

01:03:27.619 --> 01:03:31.449
I've said can you name anybody in a group and

01:03:31.449 --> 01:03:39.059
then you just go pineapple spider you go okay

01:03:39.059 --> 01:03:42.099
nothing nothing out of the ordinary there that's

01:03:42.099 --> 01:03:46.110
not what I'd expect to be from a radio but but

01:03:46.110 --> 01:03:48.429
if it says can you can you tell me a name or

01:03:48.429 --> 01:03:52.510
something and you say Abbey and it is potentially

01:03:53.309 --> 01:03:55.909
somebody talking about Abbey Road Studios on

01:03:55.909 --> 01:03:58.170
the radio at that particular time on radio four

01:03:58.170 --> 01:04:01.110
that we've just swept through and it says Abbey

01:04:01.300 --> 01:04:05.329
you repeat it that's weird in itself again don't

01:04:05.329 --> 01:04:07.550
know if it's paranormal but it's weird that that

01:04:07.550 --> 01:04:09.510
word came through at that particular time with

01:04:09.510 --> 01:04:12.980
that particular question like with the word banks

01:04:12.980 --> 01:04:15.219
and the boo call for example why does that word

01:04:15.219 --> 01:04:18.599
come through at that particular time in that

01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:20.699
particular location when you've asked that particular

01:04:20.699 --> 01:04:26.380
question why is it that why is it i'm sat here

01:04:26.380 --> 01:04:31.980
in my living room and asking about my dad and

01:04:31.980 --> 01:04:34.659
his first two names come through on the boo core

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while i'm sat in front of his plaque in my living

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room it's just too sometimes say with the estes

01:04:42.190 --> 01:04:44.130
as well it's too much of a coincidence to be

01:04:44.130 --> 01:04:46.909
a coincidence and i think those guys who developed

01:04:46.909 --> 01:04:56.110
estes Stanley Park they put a lot of time and

01:04:56.110 --> 01:05:00.429
hours into that spirit box session and then they

01:05:00.429 --> 01:05:04.110
introduced the headphones they introduced the

01:05:04.110 --> 01:05:08.369
blindfold and they're getting great results as

01:05:08.369 --> 01:05:17.110
we have so it's worth bearing in mind that sometimes

01:05:17.110 --> 01:05:21.650
it can't be a coincidence it has to be something

01:05:23.190 --> 01:05:26.090
unexplained but and i think i think kind of talking

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about the essence method if you are going to

01:05:27.769 --> 01:05:31.900
use the spirit box use an essence method or similar

01:05:31.900 --> 01:05:34.000
uh with doing there are different sort of things

01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:36.300
you can do where you just eliminate it or as

01:05:36.300 --> 01:05:39.440
many sources as you can like you don't know what

01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:41.039
the question is so you can't be influenced by

01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:44.440
the answer yeah uh you're not in any senses you're

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not seeing people react so you say a word and

01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:49.760
you see people say you've not got the blindfold

01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:51.929
on We got headphones on so you don't have a question,

01:05:51.949 --> 01:05:54.630
but you can see how they react You say a word

01:05:54.630 --> 01:05:56.909
and you see they react like oh my god, and then

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you may think okay I stay along I try and might

01:05:59.329 --> 01:06:01.650
stay along this kind of type of answer because

01:06:01.650 --> 01:06:04.769
obviously means something to him even I subconsciously

01:06:04.769 --> 01:06:08.099
doing that because you might have said Ash for

01:06:08.099 --> 01:06:10.159
example, you might have said the word ash and

01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:13.429
they've gone You know, they've probably asked

01:06:13.429 --> 01:06:16.210
a question about can you name someone in the

01:06:16.210 --> 01:06:19.769
room? And then you might think the next question

01:06:19.769 --> 01:06:22.710
might be how old are you? or how many people

01:06:22.710 --> 01:06:24.550
in the room and yes you might be listening out

01:06:24.550 --> 01:06:27.369
for a number yeah and then so even i say even

01:06:27.369 --> 01:06:29.789
subconsciously yeah your mind your brain's getting

01:06:29.789 --> 01:06:31.769
these patterns like what you're expecting to

01:06:31.769 --> 01:06:34.250
sort of see next or hear next yeah i'd be then

01:06:34.250 --> 01:06:37.650
you think oh i'm gonna hear a number oh 52 so

01:06:37.650 --> 01:06:39.250
they might just ask because they you might even

01:06:39.250 --> 01:06:40.829
know the person they think oh if i was there

01:06:40.829 --> 01:06:45.510
i'd probably ask next how old are you so i'm

01:06:45.510 --> 01:06:47.750
gonna give out a number next because that might

01:06:48.449 --> 01:06:50.750
But as you can't see any reactions, you are literally

01:06:50.750 --> 01:06:53.730
blind. You have no idea what's going on. And

01:06:53.730 --> 01:06:57.010
after a while you lose all time as well. You

01:06:57.010 --> 01:07:00.550
just you get into the you get into like a trance

01:07:00.550 --> 01:07:03.349
state. It's you do it properly where you literally

01:07:03.349 --> 01:07:06.309
just I find rocking a better way of doing it.

01:07:06.829 --> 01:07:09.070
Just getting your body into the rhythm and just

01:07:09.070 --> 01:07:11.429
you just you just you become the noise. It's

01:07:11.429 --> 01:07:15.289
so it's very weird. So weird. So I say you become.

01:07:15.630 --> 01:07:18.449
the noise it's you're just like you are the vessel

01:07:18.449 --> 01:07:24.940
for um the the the the the spirit box like i

01:07:24.940 --> 01:07:28.199
see and you are using it um get people to use

01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:29.800
it differently stuff like especially the essence

01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:33.079
method you hear people saying like male voice

01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:35.599
said this like none of that you should just be

01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:38.940
whatever you hear you say it if you can sort

01:07:38.940 --> 01:07:41.019
of pronounce it in the same way that's better

01:07:41.019 --> 01:07:42.539
as well because you sort of get in the tone or

01:07:42.539 --> 01:07:45.070
the inflection on it But just literally don't

01:07:45.070 --> 01:07:46.889
think about and if you're not trying to put it

01:07:46.889 --> 01:07:50.110
your spin on it You just want to say as you hear

01:07:50.110 --> 01:07:52.050
it. That's all you're doing is just say as you

01:07:52.050 --> 01:07:54.289
hear it Don't think about anything else. You

01:07:54.289 --> 01:07:55.929
know always a woman said it that's you being

01:07:55.929 --> 01:07:58.110
distracted by stuff It's actually hearing for

01:07:58.110 --> 01:08:01.590
the words and just saying them just word word

01:08:01.590 --> 01:08:04.590
word. That's how you should be doing it with

01:08:04.590 --> 01:08:09.329
the essence method So that is our little roundup

01:08:09.329 --> 01:08:12.369
on over run then around up. It was a bit around

01:08:12.369 --> 01:08:16.640
but also a bit of a knowledge pass on based on

01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:20.420
our sort of experiences as well. And if you look

01:08:20.420 --> 01:08:23.060
at some of the debunker channels they will talk

01:08:23.060 --> 01:08:26.659
about the DR -60 voice recorder and how flawed

01:08:26.659 --> 01:08:31.680
it is and the cat paws for example. But it's

01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.819
worth knowing how these devices work so the next

01:08:34.819 --> 01:08:38.000
big device that people come up with understand

01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:43.020
how it works and if it works a certain way is

01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:45.970
there any other normal natural ways that could

01:08:45.970 --> 01:08:48.760
influence it to be triggered because then at

01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.340
least if you're aware of that and you can eliminate

01:08:51.340 --> 01:08:55.739
those triggers then whatever comes has got to

01:08:55.739 --> 01:08:57.659
be something a bit weird again don't know if

01:08:57.659 --> 01:09:01.050
it's paranormal but it's unexplained and weird

01:09:01.210 --> 01:09:03.569
i think yeah i think we've had so many nights

01:09:03.569 --> 01:09:05.930
where we all say oh i had a very abnormally active

01:09:05.930 --> 01:09:09.590
night it's such a weird night yeah well that's

01:09:09.590 --> 01:09:12.350
a lot of it i can't explain it that was weird

01:09:12.350 --> 01:09:17.090
yeah and I think we're at that point where we've

01:09:17.090 --> 01:09:19.250
done so many live streams we've been to so many

01:09:19.250 --> 01:09:22.270
forests we've been to so many buildings that

01:09:22.270 --> 01:09:24.989
you get to a point you go okay I don't know if

01:09:24.989 --> 01:09:26.869
that's paranormal it might not be paranormal

01:09:26.869 --> 01:09:31.899
but it's definitely weird and you find I think

01:09:31.899 --> 01:09:35.439
you find a lot of people going it was it's really

01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:39.600
weird there it's I can't like you said can't

01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:43.600
explain it House of Cries lots of weird stuff

01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:45.720
happened there again don't know if it's paranormal

01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:49.560
but weird stuff let's not think about that night

01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:57.899
it's just weird stuff happens anyway that's been

01:09:57.899 --> 01:10:01.560
us with the top well i say top five five paranormal

01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:05.020
pieces of equipment the people use and the pitfalls

01:10:05.020 --> 01:10:07.859
to using them and things to look out for if you

01:10:07.859 --> 01:10:10.359
are going to use them but like you said paranormal

01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:13.579
equipment can be super expensive and to be fair

01:10:13.579 --> 01:10:18.420
if you've got a torch a voice recorder not even

01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:21.460
that really you can use your phone to voice record

01:10:21.460 --> 01:10:26.560
or video or video just a torch sometimes we just

01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.560
have a torch and that's it and video record it

01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:34.100
if you want to everything else go with it cat

01:10:34.100 --> 01:10:37.420
walls stick them up your arse yeah leave them

01:10:37.420 --> 01:10:43.489
attached to the cat anyway thank you very much

01:10:43.489 --> 01:10:48.989
Ash that's been awesome again and we will So

01:10:48.989 --> 01:10:51.170
the next time an episode goes out we will be

01:10:51.170 --> 01:10:54.550
the next episode is the psionics episode I think

01:10:54.550 --> 01:10:59.420
next week so That will be super quiet really

01:10:59.420 --> 01:11:01.859
look and that is about how the mind can influence

01:11:01.859 --> 01:11:05.789
the appearance of UFOs I'm calling and controlling

01:11:05.789 --> 01:11:09.149
UFOs. So amazing. That is gonna be super cool.

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