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If I had to pinpoint it to one specific moment,

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it would have to be the first video we recorded.

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So the place that we recorded it was called The

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Junction Inn. And I heard what I believed at

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the time. And to be honest, I still believe that

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it was a young girl crying. I heard it. But as

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that happened, a REM pod in the other room has

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just started beeping. That's the one moment where

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I've kind of gone. I can't I want to go on You're

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listening to pursuit of the paranormal podcast

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with your hosts ash ellis and greg tomlinson

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Hey, how are you doing that time? What are you

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doing? Putting you off. That's what I'm doing.

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I know how are you? How are you? Very well. Very

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well. I'm good. How are you? Yeah, I'm very good.

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I'm very good. We've just had a brilliant conversation

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With someone about haunted location they run

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how they go into the paranormal Haunted object

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wanted objects. Yeah, so that's been fascinating

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but but before we talk any more about the intro

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today is a big day for you oh yes so we're recording

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this on monday the 14th of september what happened

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today ash what's happened today tell me all about

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it today we iUFO identified launched UKUFO database

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.co .uk which is a fully comprehensive online

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database of sightings reported in the UK since

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2021. It's fully searched we've got interactive

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map fully searched world database statistics

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page so you can go on you can just put in things

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like you can just search the whole map as it

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is there's thousands of sightings on there you

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can zoom in move around you can put your postcode

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in it takes the sightings anyway your postcode

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is You can just search like triangle leads in

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2021 and it'll just bring up them sightings that

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relate to that. You can search anything, you

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can filter it by anything and it'll just bring

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up them sightings. So any research, anyone interested

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in UFOs in the UK, any sort of research project

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are just interested in what sightings have been

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seen where. Each sighting has its own page, so

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you can just view all information about the page,

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what evidence is with it, where the source is,

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the witness report, everything, time, date, shape.

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Well, it's seeing how long it's all this stuff

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is all on there So that launched today. They're

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very stressful. They've been very stressful few

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months I've worked enough now particularly for

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the past three or four weeks because it has been

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very stressful It's been I gave myself a hard

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date of the 14th because I had to national press

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outlets wanting to talk about it as I So I had

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to embargo it. I sent more information in the

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past couple of weeks. They had to embargo it

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until today. They said do not buy anything until

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the website is launched. So I won't be able to

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go on it while the website is actually live.

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So I was like, yeah, this is the day and I did

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it. There's things to come for the rest of the

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year. I'll trade 27 big things coming, even bigger,

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make it even better. But yeah, UK UFO database.

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I call it UK. Check it out. You get into UKs.

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You get into UKs. You get into UFOs. You're too

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excited. I've been on there. I've been on there.

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It looks wicked. It's amazing It works amazing

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on a mobile as well. So there's no excuse if

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you've got a mobile you can see it So yeah head

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over to their ASAP So yeah, and I know that's

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been a big consumer of your life for the last

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good and much else apart Let's see if the past

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three or four weeks other nothing else Building

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this building this website So it's amazing to

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you but it looks amazing. So I know I know it'll

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be amazing going forward as well. So So getting

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back to this this episode. So we speak to Scott

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Kay from the Daily Detour paranormal and he talks

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to us about A location that he and the team have

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taken over called the old Vicarage in Wakefield

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And we talked to him about everything and a surprise

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object that they have there that has been seen

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elsewhere. I won't say any more. You have to

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listen to to get the detail. But yeah, so if

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you like haunted locations, especially this is

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a particularly new, newer one in the scene, kind

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of haunted objects, attachments. Go and listen.

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So welcome along Scott. How are you today? Thanks

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for joining us Yeah, not too bad. Not too bad.

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Just them. Well, I ran around cleaning me a desk

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up just for you guys Try getting some make it

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look more the parts pause. Yeah a few paranormal

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bits on the back there Yeah, we've got a few

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we've got one one of us one of us Supposed and

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haunted vessels at the back that I've brought

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that's brand new, we've only just got it. Go

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on then, let's talk about that then, while we're

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there. So this is, it's a new one that we've

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got, so it's a young boy, it's supposed to be,

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I've got the notes here, but yeah it's a young

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boy that's attached to this picture, it doesn't

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say whether the young boy is actually the boy

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in the photo, But what we do is, the reason why

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it's in my house, is we actually do bits and

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bats with them first before we take them over

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to the Vicarage, which I'm sure we'll get into

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a bit later. I'd love to tell you loads of stories

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about it, but we try... When we get them sent,

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we say, just give us the basics. Don't tell us

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too much because we don't want to go in there

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with an idea and expecting something and then

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being disappointed in the long run. yeah currently

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under investigation so we say um but yeah that's

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the only the only one that's in my house i'm

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not allowed to bring dolls home need me partners

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terrified of them so it were it were interesting

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when bob the clown got delivered bob the clown

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Yes, so again, I'm pretty sure I've got a lot

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more details about him for you later on, but

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quick short of Bob the Clown. Bob the Clown was

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known for being on haunted hunts. He was down

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in Chester at the, I always butcher this name,

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I think it's the old King's Head. My haunted

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hotel. Yes, that's it. And he was in there for

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a while. we got him through a third party that

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was involved with them and yeah we've had some

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interesting stuff with him but i'll save that

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for when we get into the museum stuff cool cool

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right so yeah so uh and also as we talked about

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you've got a Pedro Beardo there yes good old

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Beardo inspiration but um probably for not what

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you think Now he's a nice guy. He's a nice guy.

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Yeah, so going back then so we'll come up to

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like modern day in a minute What got you to where

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you are today? So take us back to how you got

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into the paranormal or that kind of jazz? So

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It's a bit it's a bit I find this one really

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fascinating to tell so I I've always been involved

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in like kind of the media side of things and

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a lot of different hobbies, should we say. So

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when I was younger, I used to make short films

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with my friend. Then I moved into doing a podcast.

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I did a podcast with my friend and then I ended

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up doing music. So I did music for quite a long

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time, a good four to five years. I kind of got

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into the paranormal. by accident, and it was

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kind of, it wasn't supposed to happen. So my

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friend Carl, who works alongside me at the Daily

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Detour, he was just asking everybody to go a

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30 year drive with him. Now, up until this point,

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I was always very much like, I can't, I ain't

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got time for this. You know, I'm working on my

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music. Like, I'm not interested, mate. But it

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got to a point where he just kept asking and

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kept asking. So I'm like, do you know what, right?

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I'm not paying for it. He's asked me to go with

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him. What's the worst that can happen? You'll

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find out the worst that can happen soon. So we

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went to 30 years driving and we live streamed

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the whole, oh no, we didn't live stream the first

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one, did we? Yes, we live streamed the first

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one, I've been twice now. So we live streamed

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the first one because I didn't, I won't film

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in it. And I kind of left there with more questions

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than answers, like not a lot happened. I'm not

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going to sit here and say that there were loads

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of activity, but there were certain things that

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I felt and kind of how other people around me

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were feeling at the same time. Now, if you'd

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have asked any of us walking into there, is the

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paranormal real? No, absolutely not. Walking

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out of there, it was... what's just happened.

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But then I didn't do anything for, I want to

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say about a year. I didn't, I wasn't involved

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in it. We just carried on with my music and I

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did a big live show in Leeds and I decided at

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that point that that was, that were it. I was

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done with music after that, which takes us to

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December of last year. Now in December of last

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year. Might have been a bit earlier than that.

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It was back in the last year. I basically said

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to Carl look I've got this idea and I'm gonna

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do a full YouTube channel around the paranormal

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and And he kind of it kind of lapped it off because

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it was always one of them things where it's like

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Yeah, you say this all the time, but you don't

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do I'm known for doing details, but which will

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whether names kind of come from and And it kind

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of just nothing come of it. But in the background,

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I would design in every hour doing all the logos,

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the plans and all that stuff. And then I think

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we it was around February. We actually filmed

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the releases first video within a two day turnaround,

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which I'm never doing again, because not a chance.

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But yeah, we did that. We did the first we went

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to a pub that Carl actually worked in. So there

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were this whole turnaround within two days and

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I have been hooked ever since. Absolutely hooked.

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I can't, it annoys my partner because I live

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and breathe it every day. Well, yeah, that's

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how we got it. So all in all, pretty new to the

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paranormal world then. Very, very new. And the

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fact that you were, I can see the certificate,

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is that the certificate behind you from the weekends?

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You were nominated for an award at the weekend.

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Tell us about that. Absolutely. I'm super proud

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of this. We were nominated for emerging investigators.

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So the Daily Detail were nominated for emerging

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investigator. Massive shock to us. I personally

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put it down to the building that we now look

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after. I'm still trying to understand it now.

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You know, I look at all these people that, you

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know, was at that event and compared to what

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they do on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram,

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all these in terms of the investigating side

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of it, they are doing a hundred times more things

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than we are. You know, I think I've released

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six videos and I just, I didn't understand it.

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It was only when I looked back and thought about

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how quickly we've gone from releasing his first

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video to taking over the Vicarage to now being

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here with all the plans that we've got coming

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up that I realized, well no, maybe, you know,

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people have probably seen the work that we've

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put in. They've probably seen that we've come

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from not having a clue what we're doing and we

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still don't To obviously where it is now. And

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so I'm really really proud of that and It's the

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one thing that it'll be forever forever on my

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desk That's a great achievement. There's a great

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achievement. So congratulations on that and You

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say that you are hooked on the paranormal So

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yes, you went 30 drive. So if we go back to 30

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drive, then you went you went back there Tell

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us what happened there. We've we've been ourselves

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in about two or three times now Ash has been

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so Yeah, let us know So I will I'll tell you

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the story as I knew it back then and then I'm

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gonna Now I investigate I look at it differently,

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but I'll tell you how it happens as well. And

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so we we was upstairs and we was in different

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rooms now we had set up on the stairs we had

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a music box at the top and we had a rem pod at

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the bottom of the stairs um and the rem pod went

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off now obviously we've we've never experienced

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this so if anyone were wearing headphones whilst

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watching that they they won't be wearing headphones

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anymore um because of course we'd heard it we've

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jumped oh my god oh my god this is happening

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and we've gone to the landing area. As we've

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got to the landing area, the REM pod stops, and

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like somebody had walked up the stairs, the music

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box just started playing. Now, yeah, obviously

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now I do it, I look at it a little bit differently,

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but on command, whatever it was, was stepping

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away from the music box. and back towards the

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music box. It's the first video on my TikTok,

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so we clipped it. It looks like it's filmed on

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a potato, but it was the first clip that we ever

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took from that live stream. And I just put it

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up just for fun. But it was one of the moments

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where I'm like, is this real? Is this like something

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just actually happened? but then the weirdest

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part was I used to have a set of rosary beads

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and I wore these rosary beads they were a gift

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from a family member so I wore them all the time

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and whilst we was there they had snapped at the

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back off my neck but the way that it snapped

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is you know how the little hoops will connect

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together if you pull them apart one of them had

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pronged They were perfect. There were no, there

00:16:10.299 --> 00:16:14.360
were no break in the metal pieces at all. Now,

00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:17.820
even at this point, I thought someone is messing

00:16:17.820 --> 00:16:19.820
about with me or whatever, like, I can't be bothered

00:16:19.820 --> 00:16:23.779
with this. I'm going to sleep. We all, four fully

00:16:23.779 --> 00:16:26.940
grown men sleeping together on a floor, but it

00:16:26.940 --> 00:16:33.259
was great. But the day after, they were put back

00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:38.730
together. Now, I still, to this point, genuinely

00:16:38.730 --> 00:16:41.230
believe it was one of the boys messing about,

00:16:41.769 --> 00:16:46.090
to this point. I took these rosary beads home.

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Now, I've lived in three different houses whilst

00:16:49.809 --> 00:16:53.309
having these rosary beads. In all three of them

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houses, the rosary beads would disappear and

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they would come back with beads, like, gone,

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so beads had been taken off. When I lived in

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the first house, we didn't have any pets, so

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it was kind of like weird, but I've got kids.

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Probably just messing about, pulled it off. Then

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I moved into another house where we had two dogs.

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This was at my parents' house, at my mum's house,

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sorry, where we had, she's got two dogs, and

00:17:23.130 --> 00:17:25.609
again, it kept disappearing. We had to find it,

00:17:25.730 --> 00:17:28.309
be it to be missing, so on and so forth. I moved

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into this house that I'm in now, and this is

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where it kinda made me go. Hang on a minute.

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I lost these rosaries, so I lost them this time.

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It wasn't where, like, I'd not put them somewhere

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and then they'd disappear. I fully lost them,

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or I thought I'd fully lost them. And I have

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a drawer that's, like, as you walk in my door.

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Now, this is a drawer that we go in every day.

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And one day, I just opened it, and I just found

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it in the drawer. It's just a cross now with

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a couple of beads off the end of it. Just there.

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Like, and I'm like, I don't understand that.

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To the point where I am that convinced that I

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brought someone home with me, that is now in

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the museum, staying there, it's never coming

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out. But yeah, it was like, we didn't get any

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activity or anything like that, like nothing

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happened in the house, it was just kept disappearing

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and coming back. The part that made it even more

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interesting is them rows that cross turned up.

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three weeks before we went back to Thirtieth

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Drive. Yeah, that's my Thirtieth Drive story.

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Interesting. So it's funny because when you talk

00:18:49.779 --> 00:18:51.839
about where things are at Thirtieth Drive, pretty

00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:54.200
much everybody will know. When you say you had

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a thing at the top of the stairs, Rampart at

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the top of the stairs. So the bottom, everybody

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can picture. where all this stuff is. So where

00:19:02.019 --> 00:19:04.099
were you guys? Were you guys upstairs at the

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time or were you downstairs? Yeah so we were

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upstairs and we was at the, so you see on the

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video I'm behind the music box and the music

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box is facing like kind of on a diagonal way,

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like kind of diagonally face towards the stairs.

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Obviously we couldn't have it that way because

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of the wall. But again now This is where I go

00:19:28.140 --> 00:19:31.319
to the invest the side of me. Now that investigates

00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:33.079
that could have been absolutely. And if it could

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have been the light passing, it could have been,

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oh, um, but back then it was very much like,

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Oh no, someone's getting me. Um, but yeah, like

00:19:41.460 --> 00:19:46.000
the cross thing genuinely, I do not have, I don't,

00:19:46.099 --> 00:19:47.839
I just don't get it apart from someone messing

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with me. I don't understand it. So you mentioned

00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.329
like with the rosary beads and potentially that

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something may come back and you got the haunted

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photo of the boy and you mentioned other sort

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of objects what's your take on kind of attachments

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and do you think that objects can be haunted

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and have these attachments to them okay so this

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might sound odd because i collect them so i have

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an odd obsession with collecting supposedly haunted

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objects however I am yet to be fully convinced

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that something is attached to them. You know,

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like people that investigate me sometimes get

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quite annoyed because I will sit there and go,

00:20:36.619 --> 00:20:43.519
well, yeah, that could have been anything. Right

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now, I'd say no. I'm not convinced that something

00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:48.720
is attached to that picture, for example. I'm

00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:54.259
not 100 % convinced. That's fair. So kind of

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on that, you mentioned when you talk about the

00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.700
beads, uh, that in the museum. Yeah. So is that,

00:21:00.779 --> 00:21:02.380
you've got a museum in your house, but what do

00:21:02.380 --> 00:21:05.460
you mean when you say sort of museum? Okay. So

00:21:05.460 --> 00:21:08.500
we have a museum at the old Vicarage in Waitfield.

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So the old Vicarage is one of, well, it's not

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one of, we've only got one. Um, it's the building

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that we run investigations at. in here in Wakefield

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and one of them rooms is the vault which is a

00:21:24.220 --> 00:21:27.779
haunted and historic museum so it's part of like

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it's not a separate thing it's just just sounded

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cool to give it a name so we gave it a name but

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yeah it's part of just like your generic normal

00:21:37.099 --> 00:21:39.960
investigation you come on an investigation you've

00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:43.759
got access to it and stuff like that. So how

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did you come into possession so to speak, of

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running the old Vicarage. Tell us about that.

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I don't know if everybody does this when I first

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start out, but I did a little Google search and

00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.460
I just typed in most haunted places in Wakefield

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because I'm like, I don't know where I'm going.

00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:09.599
I don't drive, so I'm not getting to ancient

00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.799
RAM in anytime soon. I just searched it up now.

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There was a bookshop that this building was known

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for a few years back and I didn't know that this

00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.119
bookshop didn't exist anymore. So I'm emailing

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this bookshop and getting no response. And then

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I thought to myself one day, so I work just past

00:22:29.819 --> 00:22:30.920
city centre, so I thought, do you know what,

00:22:30.980 --> 00:22:32.220
I'm gonna walk past it and I'm gonna have a look.

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And I walked past it and I had a look and then

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I realised, so hang on a minute, there's no bookshop

00:22:37.299 --> 00:22:40.220
in here anymore. But I know that skate shop.

00:22:40.740 --> 00:22:44.500
So the skate shop that's in there, 15 years ago,

00:22:44.500 --> 00:22:47.160
when I got my first ever skateboard, he was the

00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.160
guy that sold me it. So it was kind of a full

00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:54.819
circle moment. So we reached out to, so he's

00:22:54.819 --> 00:22:56.380
called Wayne, he won't mind me mentioning his

00:22:56.380 --> 00:22:58.380
name. I reached out to Wayne and I said, look,

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man, I'm interested in doing an investigation

00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:04.099
at the odd vicarage. Is it something you can

00:23:04.099 --> 00:23:07.119
do? And he politely says, not a chance unless

00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:12.869
you pay 200 no quid. So. And they were like,

00:23:12.990 --> 00:23:16.289
but I will pass you on to a lady that works in

00:23:16.289 --> 00:23:20.630
the shop who she's into this stuff. And she did

00:23:20.630 --> 00:23:22.990
it for a very, very reasonable price for us.

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And we did the investigation just like we're

00:23:26.390 --> 00:23:27.970
doing it. We thought we were just going there

00:23:27.970 --> 00:23:30.970
for an investigation. So we did the investigation.

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And then once the investigation finished, it

00:23:33.470 --> 00:23:37.009
was just an idea. And she turned around and said,

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Do you know you guys should run investigations

00:23:40.109 --> 00:23:44.329
from this building and We're just left and kind

00:23:44.329 --> 00:23:47.250
of like yeah, it's just one of them passing comments

00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:51.069
and Went home and then I sat down and I thought

00:23:51.069 --> 00:23:56.450
to myself well actually What if? Right, I'm an

00:23:56.450 --> 00:23:58.930
opportunist. I like to take opportunities if

00:23:58.930 --> 00:24:01.009
if this is something that could become something

00:24:01.009 --> 00:24:06.420
why wouldn't I do it? And I just messaged the

00:24:06.420 --> 00:24:08.259
owner one day and be like, have you got any units

00:24:08.259 --> 00:24:12.079
to rent? And he was like, okay, what's the idea?

00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.220
So I want to do paranormal investigations. At

00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:16.779
first he was like, I don't have a clue what you're

00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:18.220
on about, but if you're paying rent, you can

00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:21.160
have it. So we just took the basement at first.

00:24:21.539 --> 00:24:25.059
So we have access to the main shop in there,

00:24:25.059 --> 00:24:28.240
which is the biggest room. And we'd had access

00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:33.500
to the hallway, stairs, kitchen area. and the

00:24:33.500 --> 00:24:35.779
basement, now we're it. So that's all we had.

00:24:36.619 --> 00:24:40.220
And we've just slowly took more rooms throughout

00:24:40.220 --> 00:24:43.140
the building to the point now where we'd have

00:24:43.140 --> 00:24:45.119
to kick people out of the building to be able

00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:49.119
to take the rooms. So we're slowly getting there

00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:51.779
and it was just an opportunity. The only reason

00:24:51.779 --> 00:24:54.140
why we are in that building now is because we

00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:56.720
decided to say yeah to an opportunity that were

00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:01.079
presented to us really. What's the kind of history

00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:04.059
with that building? What's the kind of horrid

00:25:04.059 --> 00:25:12.259
that goes on there? Okay. So it's all of these

00:25:12.259 --> 00:25:15.460
stories I'm about to tell you are stories that

00:25:15.460 --> 00:25:19.059
have been passed to me. So take them as you guys

00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:22.619
want. I'll tell you my thoughts after I've told

00:25:22.619 --> 00:25:25.000
you the story. There's believed to be shadow

00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:28.769
figures seen in there. There's believed to be

00:25:28.769 --> 00:25:32.650
a young Victorian boy named Jack in the basement

00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:36.250
area and There's a lot of different knocking

00:25:36.250 --> 00:25:40.950
sounds whistling seems to be very common But

00:25:40.950 --> 00:25:44.369
the main one that people claim is Feeling like

00:25:44.369 --> 00:25:47.210
they've been watched and whistling that one a

00:25:47.210 --> 00:25:49.670
lot quite a few different people have experienced

00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:55.700
that Being touched is quite common to the point

00:25:55.700 --> 00:25:58.920
where even so we had our first ever team that

00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:02.279
we had there was the Ouija Brothers. So they

00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.160
were the first ever team that we took in there

00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:09.039
and let investigate there. And even one of them

00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:11.220
were like, I felt like a metal bar across my

00:26:11.220 --> 00:26:17.359
stomach. And I'm like, OK, that's amazing. But

00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:19.359
then it whenever in the video. So I'm like, what

00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:21.440
are you just saying? That would be nice. I don't

00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.089
think so, because they were. I mean, to be fair,

00:26:24.230 --> 00:26:26.349
I still can't understand. I'm still shocked that

00:26:26.349 --> 00:26:28.970
they even come down. I've been watching Ouija

00:26:28.970 --> 00:26:31.690
Brothers for years, so it was a bit impressive.

00:26:32.230 --> 00:26:35.130
But the actual history side of it, which there

00:26:35.130 --> 00:26:40.069
is evidence, is it's believed to be around 700

00:26:40.069 --> 00:26:43.529
years old. So although what you see now is a

00:26:43.529 --> 00:26:46.990
lot of Victorian alterations, it's believed to

00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:52.009
go all the way back to the medieval era. Now,

00:26:52.740 --> 00:26:55.539
Through, obviously, researching it myself and

00:26:55.539 --> 00:26:57.859
actually looking at the building, there's only

00:26:57.859 --> 00:27:01.079
one very, very small part of the building, which

00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:04.960
is an outside chimney breast, where the brickwork

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.259
can be taken back to the medieval era. Everything

00:27:08.259 --> 00:27:11.680
else is Victorian alterations. There's nothing

00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:16.059
else left that's from that era. So when we talk

00:27:16.059 --> 00:27:18.680
about it, we talk a lot about the Victorian times

00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:23.579
rather than going too far back. There was believed

00:27:23.579 --> 00:27:27.079
to be a plague pit and I always say this word

00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.779
wrong, cholera. I think it is a cholera pit at

00:27:29.779 --> 00:27:32.339
the side of that building. So at the side there's

00:27:32.339 --> 00:27:35.160
a big dip that goes down and that's where the

00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.740
cholera pit is and plague pit whichever one.

00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:43.180
There's believed to be a connection to the tunnel

00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:46.940
system in Wakefield but I'm not allowed to knock

00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:50.150
walls down so I can't. confirm that I'm not.

00:27:51.670 --> 00:27:54.170
But in terms of all of the stories I've just

00:27:54.170 --> 00:27:57.710
told you about the paranormal experiences I have

00:27:57.710 --> 00:28:02.009
spent countless countless nights in that building

00:28:02.009 --> 00:28:05.630
and I don't think I've experienced anything like

00:28:05.630 --> 00:28:11.150
that once. I've been touched on the pocket but

00:28:11.150 --> 00:28:16.809
again looking back at it could that... the building's

00:28:16.809 --> 00:28:20.000
falling to bits. So it would be very easy to

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.039
catch yourself on summit. A spider dropping on

00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.799
your head. I felt at the time what I thought

00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.480
was a hand on my head. Was it that? Was it a

00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:37.380
spider? So I'm still waiting for that big. Wow,

00:28:37.660 --> 00:28:40.299
this building is definitely, there's definitely

00:28:40.299 --> 00:28:43.819
something here. Kyle on the other hand, he's

00:28:43.819 --> 00:28:45.559
experienced a lot of different things than I

00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.279
have, but of course. there for him to share.

00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:52.079
But one of the things he told me to say before

00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.339
is the one thing that he has seen is a person

00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:59.240
in the building that he believed was somebody

00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:07.480
intruding. So that sounds mad place. It does

00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.859
sound a mad place. Why is everything up north?

00:29:09.900 --> 00:29:11.839
That's what I don't get. I'm from down south.

00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:19.390
So You say you haven't experienced anything yourself

00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:24.390
and you sound quite skeptical or More like a

00:29:24.390 --> 00:29:28.430
skeptic should I say not skeptical? And then

00:29:28.430 --> 00:29:30.650
you reference like the first time you went to

00:29:30.650 --> 00:29:33.130
the East Drive and the REM pod goes off and you're

00:29:33.130 --> 00:29:38.009
like, oh my god, so yeah now there's there's

00:29:38.009 --> 00:29:41.930
that sort of Naivety and I mean that in the nicest

00:29:41.930 --> 00:29:46.230
word when All of us have started off in the paranormal

00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:49.710
and it's all really scary and things are going

00:29:49.710 --> 00:29:53.690
on. Like, fuck, what's going on here? Shit, I'm

00:29:53.690 --> 00:29:55.470
going to be haunted for the rest of my life.

00:29:55.490 --> 00:29:57.230
I'm going to be possessed. I'll be thrown against

00:29:57.230 --> 00:29:59.589
a wall or something like that. And then as time

00:29:59.589 --> 00:30:03.289
goes on, like you've done, you go away. It literally

00:30:03.289 --> 00:30:05.650
could have been a bit of light going past. It

00:30:05.650 --> 00:30:11.049
could have been anything happening. So how do

00:30:11.049 --> 00:30:15.539
you find people that come to the old Vicarage

00:30:15.539 --> 00:30:17.660
that have not been on, have they been on them

00:30:17.660 --> 00:30:20.519
before paranormal investigations? Are they kind

00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:22.980
of like fresh to it? And you can see them coming.

00:30:23.539 --> 00:30:27.640
It's getting freaked out by everything. So we've

00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:31.319
had to mixture really. I mean, a lot, everybody

00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:35.480
that's been to the Vicarage so far. Has some

00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:38.339
paranormal team or the part of a group or whatever

00:30:38.339 --> 00:30:41.200
that may be YouTube channel take talk and we

00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:46.920
haven't had any Newcomers to me say but what

00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:51.220
I do know is a massive difference is is you get

00:30:51.220 --> 00:30:56.299
your investigators that will look at things Look

00:30:56.299 --> 00:30:58.859
at the environmental factors. They'll you know,

00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.740
try and figure some out and then you get the

00:31:00.740 --> 00:31:07.029
investigators the believe everything. Now, my

00:31:07.029 --> 00:31:12.650
personal perspective of how things are, I never

00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:17.470
allow to influence the people that are investigating

00:31:17.470 --> 00:31:19.690
the building, shall we say. It's their pay breaks,

00:31:19.869 --> 00:31:22.509
their investigation. Who am I to determine how

00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:28.319
they believe something? but yeah we haven't in

00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.980
terms of newcomers we don't really get many of

00:31:30.980 --> 00:31:33.039
them don't get me wrong I have had some people

00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:35.660
that have screamed and stuff and you know we

00:31:35.660 --> 00:31:38.220
stay on site because we have to because of the

00:31:38.220 --> 00:31:41.119
other shops and I mean I'm like what's going

00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.619
on like the meerkat just poking ears up I'm like

00:31:43.619 --> 00:31:49.599
I want to go but yeah no we aren't we do we we

00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.420
are planning on I won't gonna, I'll just, you

00:31:53.420 --> 00:31:55.019
guys are the first to hear this. So one of the

00:31:55.019 --> 00:31:57.339
things that we are planning on doing is we're

00:31:57.339 --> 00:32:01.559
trying to make the experiences a little bit more

00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.880
inviting for people that have never done it before,

00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.660
but have always had an interest in it. You know,

00:32:08.019 --> 00:32:10.140
I understood the paranormal, like paranormal

00:32:10.140 --> 00:32:13.740
equipment, for example, the prices of it, sometimes

00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:17.740
it's scary how much, you know, a simple music

00:32:17.740 --> 00:32:22.000
box can cost. and we understand that and we understand

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.359
that not everybody can just go out and do that

00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:29.720
or buy them things so we actually provide a boatload

00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.640
of equipment for people to use whilst they're

00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.940
there. Just to kind of give them that push of

00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:40.140
look you don't need anything just turn up we'll

00:32:40.140 --> 00:32:42.700
provide you with what you need and if you don't

00:32:42.700 --> 00:32:45.839
know how to do it I'm in the building anyway

00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:50.720
I am happy to support you be with you Help you

00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.279
with whatever you want and we're not gonna we're

00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.440
not gonna charge you anything like I'm there

00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:59.180
anyway, so let's do it But that's something that

00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:03.200
we're planning on pushing a little bit more and

00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:06.680
as Back in the year comes. Yeah, I think it's

00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.980
um, it's quite daunting. I remember Myself not

00:33:10.980 --> 00:33:13.539
really knowing what even what to expect when

00:33:13.539 --> 00:33:16.240
I went on my first ghost hunt. I say ghost hunt

00:33:16.990 --> 00:33:19.549
That's what you call it when you don't really

00:33:19.549 --> 00:33:24.049
know what's going on. But yeah, I went to Warwick

00:33:24.049 --> 00:33:27.029
Castle for my first proper ghost hunt. I didn't

00:33:27.029 --> 00:33:30.869
have a clue, even what to expect. I got brought

00:33:30.869 --> 00:33:33.309
here as a present. I had no idea what was going

00:33:33.309 --> 00:33:36.130
on. There was people doing Ouija boards. I was

00:33:36.130 --> 00:33:41.309
freaking out. I was like, what? And I think...

00:33:41.420 --> 00:33:44.299
Having yeah, like you say having somebody there

00:33:44.299 --> 00:33:46.359
and people having equipment So I turned up with

00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.779
a torch and that's all right. I turned up with

00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:51.539
I didn't even know what to bring I didn't know.

00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:54.319
Yeah, even what to expect. I know warwick castle

00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:57.599
is obviously history there and it all sorts of

00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.140
things have happened at warwick castle, but I

00:34:01.140 --> 00:34:05.619
think Yeah, the the way to get new people in

00:34:05.619 --> 00:34:09.400
is to But hold their hand really I think it is

00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.420
daunting. Yeah, it's done especially when you

00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:15.340
go on tik -tok and you see all these big teams

00:34:15.340 --> 00:34:19.500
You've got like the likes of say GTI. For example,

00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.539
there's 10 ,000 people watching their live stream

00:34:22.539 --> 00:34:25.800
There all this shit's kicking off and you're

00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.099
like, oh my god Is that is that's what it's that

00:34:29.099 --> 00:34:31.219
what it's like because a live streams completely

00:34:31.219 --> 00:34:33.059
different to sit in there all night and fuck

00:34:33.059 --> 00:34:39.869
all happening as in many places so I think it's

00:34:39.869 --> 00:34:43.170
um it's good that you you're on hand to provide

00:34:43.170 --> 00:34:47.070
some equipment and sort of taught people how

00:34:47.070 --> 00:34:49.050
to use it because it's all well and good you

00:34:49.050 --> 00:34:51.170
see in a rem pod but if you don't know how it

00:34:51.170 --> 00:34:54.750
really works or what could cause it to go off

00:34:54.750 --> 00:34:58.789
yeah it's it's a daunting piece of equipment

00:34:58.789 --> 00:35:00.809
even though it just lights up and buzzes and

00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:07.059
does all the weird stuff um even a K2 meter,

00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:10.400
all those kind of things. And like you say, you

00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.619
don't really want to spend 40, 50, 60 pounds

00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:15.679
just on a small bit of equipment and going up

00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.920
to hundreds. If you're going out for a night

00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.579
and you might not even enjoy it. I mean, why

00:35:20.579 --> 00:35:22.199
wouldn't you enjoy a paranormal investigation?

00:35:22.460 --> 00:35:29.000
It's amazing. So that's some of your plans coming

00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:35.710
up. What's the single Biggest experience that

00:35:35.710 --> 00:35:37.989
you've had not necessarily the courage anything

00:35:37.989 --> 00:35:43.909
that you've gone Wow for yourself Yeah, so just

00:35:43.909 --> 00:35:45.750
before I explain that I just wanted just quickly

00:35:45.750 --> 00:35:47.590
like obviously mentioned around the kind of like

00:35:47.590 --> 00:35:53.190
the skepticism and stuff. Yeah It's like when

00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:58.050
these moments happen I 100 % Believe in that

00:35:58.050 --> 00:36:00.670
right, you know when when something grabbed my

00:36:00.670 --> 00:36:03.349
pocket, I believe that something grabbed my pocket

00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.320
It's only when I've walked away that I have looked

00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.599
at it a little bit differently. I don't want

00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.239
it to sound like I'm being negative all the time.

00:36:16.579 --> 00:36:20.860
I think the reason why I'm quite sceptical when

00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:23.800
I've come away from that experience, if I'm honest

00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.480
with you, it's fear more than anything. You know,

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.320
I don't want to feel like I'm walking it. We're

00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.579
building every day and something bad could happen

00:36:30.579 --> 00:36:34.360
to me. So I think sometimes I try I try a little

00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.920
bit too hard to convince myself that these things

00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:41.380
are this, this, this and this. And, you know,

00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:46.380
like the video on on my channel, like when someone

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.840
does grab my pocket, you can see the genuine

00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.719
what? No, I'm not. That can't happen. You can

00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.280
see it and. I swear a lot when I'm scared to

00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.699
the point where I even put an apology with swearing

00:37:01.699 --> 00:37:05.960
in it. So, but yeah, but back to the, I just

00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:07.820
wanted to put that out there, but back to the

00:37:07.820 --> 00:37:14.199
question around the single. If I had to pinpoint

00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:18.780
it to one specific moment, it would have to be.

00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.239
The first video we recorded, so the place that

00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:23.800
we recorded that, it was called the Junction

00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:28.000
Inn. Now, off the top of my head, I couldn't

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:32.219
remember the history, but way back when it was

00:37:32.219 --> 00:37:36.440
used for miners, it was known as the Nudge and

00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:42.139
Whisper. Now, I heard behind, so we were sat

00:37:42.139 --> 00:37:45.480
at a table, and do you know the hatches in pubs

00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.030
like? where they pass the beers through, not

00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:48.869
the big bar bit but like they've always got that

00:37:48.869 --> 00:37:51.289
back room with snooker tables in. That hatch

00:37:51.289 --> 00:37:54.889
we had a music box set up on there pointing towards

00:37:54.889 --> 00:37:59.530
where the bar area was. It'd been there like

00:37:59.530 --> 00:38:02.130
pretty much all night but it turned from that

00:38:02.130 --> 00:38:04.070
area to another to the point it was straight

00:38:04.070 --> 00:38:07.530
down and nothing like we're setting it off from

00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:12.079
inside that area. And I heard what I believed

00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.059
at the time. And to be honest, I still believe

00:38:14.059 --> 00:38:21.000
that it was a young girl crying. Now, I say I

00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.579
believe even now that it was that, because it

00:38:23.579 --> 00:38:28.440
was very convincing. Again, we could go through

00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.639
the whole thing of what it made, what it outside,

00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:33.619
so on and so forth. But at the time, I heard

00:38:33.619 --> 00:38:38.940
it. But as that happened, a REM pod in the other

00:38:38.940 --> 00:38:42.179
room, so soon as I've gone, Carl, did you hear

00:38:42.179 --> 00:38:45.739
that? I've just heard a girl crying behind me.

00:38:47.219 --> 00:38:50.800
As we've turned like that, the REM pod in the

00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.099
other room has just started beeping. That's the

00:38:54.099 --> 00:38:59.039
one moment where I've kind of gone, I can't,

00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.300
I want to go home. We didn't, we went to sleep

00:39:02.300 --> 00:39:06.099
on a stool and it wasn't comfy, but yeah, that's

00:39:06.099 --> 00:39:08.730
the one moment that I'd say. were kind of a shock

00:39:08.730 --> 00:39:13.150
to me. I really had that many major experiences.

00:39:14.750 --> 00:39:16.630
A lot of people say that I'm bad luck when I

00:39:16.630 --> 00:39:18.349
go on investigations because no happens when

00:39:18.349 --> 00:39:21.190
I'm there and I'm like well stuff does happen

00:39:21.190 --> 00:39:23.690
it's just unfortunately we walk away and we have

00:39:23.690 --> 00:39:26.429
a conversation and then we think something didn't

00:39:26.429 --> 00:39:28.769
happen. But yeah that that'd have to be the one

00:39:28.769 --> 00:39:31.550
that I pick out of the ones that are memorable

00:39:31.550 --> 00:39:34.789
anyway. So it sounds like a really cool place

00:39:34.789 --> 00:39:38.110
there. and you mentioned that you get artifacts

00:39:38.110 --> 00:39:42.269
and you keep them in the vault in the room there

00:39:42.269 --> 00:39:45.710
what what other things are in there whatever

00:39:45.710 --> 00:39:48.250
objects are in there you mentioned about a clown

00:39:48.250 --> 00:39:53.489
from my haunted hotel um yes what how how do

00:39:53.489 --> 00:39:56.690
you come across these these items and artifacts

00:39:56.690 --> 00:40:00.170
and do people send them to you what tell us a

00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:03.989
bit more okay so It's a bit of a mixture and

00:40:03.989 --> 00:40:08.929
a lot of digging. So some of them are found through

00:40:08.929 --> 00:40:12.989
your basic Facebook marketplace, Etsy, stuff

00:40:12.989 --> 00:40:17.809
like that. And again, I am fully aware that at

00:40:17.809 --> 00:40:19.610
some point I'm probably going to get scammed.

00:40:19.849 --> 00:40:21.610
In fact, I think I have, which I'll get to in

00:40:21.610 --> 00:40:24.650
a minute. But there's a reason why we've kept

00:40:24.650 --> 00:40:29.869
it. So the first one that we actually got were

00:40:30.500 --> 00:40:33.719
a divot box now i quote it divot box because

00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:35.440
this is the one that i think we were scammed

00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:41.360
on now i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed

00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.079
when it comes to this these artifacts and stuff

00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:49.500
so we opened it um now i'm not gonna lie when

00:40:49.500 --> 00:40:52.539
people saw that video they was not the one not

00:40:52.539 --> 00:40:54.949
happy you know, you don't know what you've let

00:40:54.949 --> 00:40:57.269
off into building so on and so forth. I'm like,

00:40:57.349 --> 00:40:59.110
well, if I'm honest with you, I think I'll have

00:40:59.110 --> 00:41:04.769
let in dust because it had two feathers in it

00:41:04.769 --> 00:41:09.449
and it had a plastic cross. Now, I've searched

00:41:09.449 --> 00:41:14.630
them all and the items were too random. To me,

00:41:14.630 --> 00:41:16.269
it looks like somebody's got a box, made it look

00:41:16.269 --> 00:41:18.369
good, put some stuff in it, put it over, waxed

00:41:18.369 --> 00:41:23.739
it up. Nothing ever happened with it. it's still

00:41:23.739 --> 00:41:28.480
there and nothing has happened with it. But all

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.039
of a sudden, the guys, so the guy who I bought

00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.199
it off from Etsy, all of a sudden, I messaged

00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.840
him and then all of a sudden his site were gone.

00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.280
I'm like, hang on a minute, like what's going

00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.480
on here? But the reason, so the reason why I've

00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.980
kept it is because we had a lady come in who,

00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:55.820
believed that when we opened it, an attachment

00:41:55.820 --> 00:41:59.119
had attached to myself. I'm not going to go into

00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.940
details around, like, the conversation, but in

00:42:02.940 --> 00:42:07.579
a nutshell, stories about my life that wasn't

00:42:07.579 --> 00:42:12.960
true was told, third party -wise, because of

00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.599
this Divot Box. So I kind of were like, well,

00:42:15.619 --> 00:42:18.590
hang on a minute, that's a bit... Come on, that's

00:42:18.590 --> 00:42:21.329
my life. How can you argue me about my own life?

00:42:21.869 --> 00:42:24.050
I'm pretty sure I know it better than anyone

00:42:24.050 --> 00:42:32.150
else. So that story kind of led to people being

00:42:32.150 --> 00:42:34.530
quite, when they got there, they were the first

00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:37.250
thing that they'd look at. So we've just kind

00:42:37.250 --> 00:42:40.449
of kept it there. And we just don't tell anyone

00:42:40.449 --> 00:42:42.989
about it when they come. So we just leave it

00:42:42.989 --> 00:42:47.260
there. And we just, it's just a... to us it's

00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:49.719
just a box but we if you think it's something

00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.639
you think it's something so we can just leave

00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.800
it on the um on the windowsill area and just

00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.420
let people look at it and do whatever with it

00:42:58.420 --> 00:43:02.460
um but the the actual stuff that we've got which

00:43:02.460 --> 00:43:04.780
we have had different things from from different

00:43:04.780 --> 00:43:07.880
teams um i'll get on to bob in a minute because

00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:11.460
bob's like he's gonna have it on instagram and

00:43:11.460 --> 00:43:14.909
everything soon like I love that clown. He's

00:43:14.909 --> 00:43:19.969
amazing. He's the headliner. He is. So we've

00:43:19.969 --> 00:43:24.289
got a couple of dolls. We've got Tom, who's a

00:43:24.289 --> 00:43:27.349
doll about this big. He's very, very small and

00:43:27.349 --> 00:43:29.610
who's believed to have the spirit of a 10 to

00:43:29.610 --> 00:43:34.280
11 year old attached to him. and a picture similar

00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.440
to this one of a young boy who is believed to

00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.340
have the spirit of an elderly lady named Penelope

00:43:41.340 --> 00:43:47.199
attached. Now both of these items are items that

00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:54.440
were donated to us and I want to say that a lot

00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:57.019
of people have got responses on the spirit box

00:43:57.019 --> 00:44:00.880
when they've spoken to Tom But nothing comes

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.619
through from Penelope apart from every so often

00:44:03.619 --> 00:44:09.420
you get a smell of like a woman's perfume and

00:44:09.420 --> 00:44:14.219
Again this is teams that have experienced this

00:44:14.219 --> 00:44:17.500
this is People have been in the building they've

00:44:17.500 --> 00:44:20.780
experienced this and once again. I'm the only

00:44:20.780 --> 00:44:24.880
one that hasn't experienced it yet, so These

00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.219
are again things that people have said this happened

00:44:27.219 --> 00:44:30.769
with these these two items But the one that I

00:44:30.769 --> 00:44:35.489
can positively say that I have witnessed something

00:44:35.489 --> 00:44:39.110
with is a doll that we have called Molly. Now,

00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:42.010
I'll be honest with you, we named her Molly.

00:44:43.469 --> 00:44:46.610
When we got her, she was sent to us and she was

00:44:46.610 --> 00:44:52.090
classed as a contained entity. So there wasn't

00:44:52.090 --> 00:44:55.639
any, like... it was believed that there was no

00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.440
human spirit attached to this doll and that this

00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:02.400
doll was created through a ritual to contain

00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.400
this, I'm assuming it was a demonic entity in

00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:11.320
this doll. Now, since I put this doll in a box

00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:13.760
that I was so proud of making, I made it myself,

00:45:13.820 --> 00:45:15.900
it was brilliant, I put it in the box, I crossed

00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:18.860
it on sides of it, it were red, it were amazing,

00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.010
but we kept getting. knocking on the wood of

00:45:23.010 --> 00:45:26.909
this box to the point, pardon me, to the point

00:45:26.909 --> 00:45:29.750
where I made it so that people could open the

00:45:29.750 --> 00:45:32.690
bottom and look inside the box to see that there's

00:45:32.690 --> 00:45:35.929
nothing in there. Because with all of our stuff,

00:45:36.110 --> 00:45:38.590
you can touch it, you can look at it, you can

00:45:38.590 --> 00:45:40.869
look for wires. The only rule is if you break

00:45:40.869 --> 00:45:44.530
it, you fix it. So again, we've made it so they

00:45:44.530 --> 00:45:46.690
can lift it up, they can look underneath and

00:45:46.690 --> 00:45:48.989
they can look down the back. it's the only places

00:45:48.989 --> 00:45:50.949
where anything could be put if somebody were

00:45:50.949 --> 00:45:54.250
to put something but we kept getting this knock

00:45:54.250 --> 00:46:00.369
in and it was just constant until we took her

00:46:00.369 --> 00:46:03.630
out of the box so we took her out of the box

00:46:03.630 --> 00:46:07.610
and we've not had it once since weird we only

00:46:07.610 --> 00:46:11.750
took we only took her out of the box to essentially

00:46:11.750 --> 00:46:16.150
clean the sawdust and the bottom of the box and

00:46:16.150 --> 00:46:19.659
then we'd forgot to put her back in And it would

00:46:19.659 --> 00:46:22.699
just if we just don't have knocking on that box

00:46:22.699 --> 00:46:28.320
ever since You know what we need to put back

00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:33.480
into test if it would stop again So at the moment

00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:39.860
that box has another doll in it Which I haven't

00:46:39.860 --> 00:46:44.800
I haven't seen yet so Carl's gonna put another

00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:48.250
doll in there that apparently looks more the

00:46:48.250 --> 00:46:52.449
part for that box we are creating a new box for

00:46:52.449 --> 00:46:56.429
her if you ever get chance to come down and see

00:46:56.429 --> 00:46:59.750
the place it's kind of set out so that there's

00:46:59.750 --> 00:47:02.809
like open boxes there's closed boxes there's

00:47:02.809 --> 00:47:06.010
shelves for all these different items and they

00:47:06.010 --> 00:47:09.469
all going so they'll all get changed position

00:47:09.469 --> 00:47:13.329
every so often mainly just to see if if anything

00:47:13.329 --> 00:47:16.159
does happen is it just that corner and is there

00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.699
something wrong with I don't know the somewhere

00:47:18.699 --> 00:47:22.480
behind the wall in that corner or is it the actual

00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:26.239
doll entity itself? We haven't got to that part

00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.000
yet because we've not been going that long but

00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.280
that's the idea behind it is they're going to

00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:34.639
move around to see if anything for example the

00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:38.719
knocking does it follow sort of thing so when

00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.400
she goes in a new box Is that new box going to

00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:48.860
then start getting knocking on it? So are we

00:47:48.860 --> 00:47:55.420
at a hairliner yet with good old Bob? So I love

00:47:55.420 --> 00:47:58.619
Bob. We are not joking. He is going to have his

00:47:58.619 --> 00:48:03.739
own Instagram soon. So Bob, obviously Bob had

00:48:03.739 --> 00:48:06.159
a story before he come to us. So Bob were known

00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.960
because of my Haunted Hotel. So people knew who

00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.610
he was. because of them um obviously the guy

00:48:13.610 --> 00:48:18.730
who we got him off um he was quite well known

00:48:18.730 --> 00:48:24.849
in the paranormal space so it was a known item

00:48:24.849 --> 00:48:30.550
now it's the story goes that he was found in

00:48:30.550 --> 00:48:35.349
an attic um and the son of the family that had

00:48:35.349 --> 00:48:38.900
found this doll in the attic Was grounded because

00:48:38.900 --> 00:48:41.079
he kept saying that the doll's log legs were

00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:45.159
moving until the point of him obviously getting

00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:48.420
rid of him and That was a very long time ago

00:48:48.420 --> 00:48:50.519
the exact history. I'd have to look at the ball

00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:54.760
to tell you but it's well, it's a vicarage but

00:48:54.760 --> 00:49:02.119
It plays the part should we say and now I know

00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.039
that sounds weird because he's kind of like the

00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.469
headliner but is not the headliner because of

00:49:08.469 --> 00:49:11.849
activity. People just gravitate to him as soon

00:49:11.849 --> 00:49:14.590
as they come in. He's a clown for a start. So

00:49:14.590 --> 00:49:16.989
people, you know, you've probably come across

00:49:16.989 --> 00:49:19.650
it yourself. Some people are just terrified of

00:49:19.650 --> 00:49:23.429
clowns. So starts the topic of conversation straight

00:49:23.429 --> 00:49:26.469
away. There's already an interesting point as

00:49:26.469 --> 00:49:28.070
soon as they've walked in the building. Oh, I

00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:31.250
don't want to go in there as a clown. People

00:49:31.250 --> 00:49:37.869
might not be so so is it, don't believe in attachment

00:49:37.869 --> 00:49:40.829
to dolls, but okay, this doll's got some stories,

00:49:40.969 --> 00:49:45.369
so let's try it out. So it's kind of just pulled

00:49:45.369 --> 00:49:47.969
people towards him every investigation, so he's

00:49:47.969 --> 00:49:50.809
kind of become like the centrepiece, the main

00:49:50.809 --> 00:49:54.630
item, the item that we are going to push, push,

00:49:54.769 --> 00:49:58.190
push and push, because we believe that he's doing

00:49:58.190 --> 00:50:02.309
good for you know, for the building. It is me

00:50:02.309 --> 00:50:04.030
not believing in it. I'm attached to talking

00:50:04.030 --> 00:50:11.030
like he's actually here. But yeah, so he is a

00:50:11.030 --> 00:50:18.550
main man. Have you or has anybody witnessed anything

00:50:18.550 --> 00:50:23.010
while he's been in your possession? Yes. Go on.

00:50:23.670 --> 00:50:30.190
Yeah, so we recently had Bad Cat Paranormal.

00:50:31.030 --> 00:50:33.869
She's been there quite a few times now. We have

00:50:33.869 --> 00:50:35.469
a joke that she might as well move in because

00:50:35.469 --> 00:50:37.369
all activity happens and it never happens for

00:50:37.369 --> 00:50:40.570
me. She was running a spirit box session and

00:50:40.570 --> 00:50:43.489
she got the name Bob coming through it twice.

00:50:45.650 --> 00:50:48.050
Which I'm watching at home and I'm thinking,

00:50:48.369 --> 00:50:50.170
hang on a minute, I'm a victim here, my pay is

00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:54.389
rent and he doesn't even talk to me. But yeah,

00:50:54.389 --> 00:50:56.809
and they heard a knock come from directly above

00:50:56.809 --> 00:51:00.969
him. Now, obviously we know the building so there's

00:51:00.969 --> 00:51:06.010
nothing above him that could be there's no pipes

00:51:06.010 --> 00:51:08.510
there's no electrical stuff like we don't have

00:51:08.510 --> 00:51:11.449
heating there's no heaters in that building at

00:51:11.449 --> 00:51:13.909
all so it won't like a water pipe or anything

00:51:13.909 --> 00:51:20.269
like that um it's just an empty attic but the

00:51:20.269 --> 00:51:22.389
way they describe it is it wasn't have i got

00:51:22.389 --> 00:51:26.820
any wood around me uh it was more of a rather

00:51:26.820 --> 00:51:29.820
than like somewhat falling, so like deliberate.

00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:35.260
And that's kind of like the main thing that's

00:51:35.260 --> 00:51:38.099
happened. We have had some people say that they've

00:51:38.099 --> 00:51:42.880
seen a figure stood in front of him. We've had

00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.760
an interesting part where the light fell off.

00:51:45.820 --> 00:51:48.380
So the lights fixed up to the top of him, because

00:51:48.380 --> 00:51:51.579
we've got to make it look spooky. So the lights

00:51:51.579 --> 00:51:54.420
attached to the top. Now that had fallen off.

00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:00.400
I do all of the work, like the maintenance work,

00:52:00.539 --> 00:52:02.420
all of the building work, everything like that

00:52:02.420 --> 00:52:08.719
to that building. I've shaken that box. I've

00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:10.659
knocked it. That light has never fallen off.

00:52:11.420 --> 00:52:16.119
So it was kind of like interesting. Let's do

00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:18.440
some. So we did do some testing on it and we

00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:21.250
tried banging on glass. you know, banging on

00:52:21.250 --> 00:52:23.710
top of it. Like these things weren't going to

00:52:23.710 --> 00:52:25.570
happen in the investigation. We could see it

00:52:25.570 --> 00:52:29.769
on video, but just to see. And again, didn't

00:52:29.769 --> 00:52:35.289
fall off. He had so we have that there was a

00:52:35.289 --> 00:52:37.929
part where she was doing a spirit box of back

00:52:37.929 --> 00:52:39.869
to back at paranormal with doing a spirit box

00:52:39.869 --> 00:52:42.150
with Bob. And all of a sudden it just comes out

00:52:42.150 --> 00:52:46.250
with Jack was in the house. So that's either

00:52:46.250 --> 00:52:50.940
a really good radio station or. You've got something

00:52:50.940 --> 00:52:52.480
there, but which were interesting for us because

00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.019
there's believed to be a young spirit boy in

00:52:55.019 --> 00:53:00.480
basement But yeah, but a lot of people just say

00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.280
they feel uneasy and they feel like he's watching

00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:06.119
him But it's also a ventriloquist doll. So his

00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:10.199
eyes are huge So you kind of you know, wherever

00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:12.340
you walk in a room dolls eyes just follow you.

00:53:12.340 --> 00:53:14.760
Anyway, it's you know, it's just what they do

00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:19.920
But yeah apart from that I can't confidently

00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:22.440
sit here and say that we've had anything else

00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:26.300
with the items themselves But it's interesting

00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:29.900
you say like a light has fallen down Yes, it's

00:53:29.900 --> 00:53:32.460
got lights in their houses. Everyone's got lights

00:53:32.460 --> 00:53:35.980
everywhere and how often the lights fall down

00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:38.900
They do. Oh, yeah As you were saying I was thinking

00:53:38.900 --> 00:53:42.059
to myself even like in a cabinet box or anything

00:53:42.059 --> 00:53:45.460
No, I've never been anywhere where lights have

00:53:45.460 --> 00:53:48.820
fallen off and if you're game you get that you

00:53:48.820 --> 00:53:52.420
get um like the sense of unease you get spirit

00:53:52.420 --> 00:53:55.699
box stuff coming through and you you add all

00:53:55.699 --> 00:53:58.739
these little bits together there's only so many

00:53:58.739 --> 00:54:02.559
we've we say it a lot on the podcast it's it's

00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:05.840
only so many times that you can call it a coincidence

00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.599
at some point it stops being a coincidence and

00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:14.539
something else is happening whether it's pounding

00:54:14.539 --> 00:54:18.070
or not at that point but still It goes past the

00:54:18.070 --> 00:54:21.989
point of coincidence. So you have multiple things

00:54:21.989 --> 00:54:25.030
from different people. At what point do you go,

00:54:25.190 --> 00:54:27.710
well, they've had that, that person's had that,

00:54:27.710 --> 00:54:30.289
we haven't had that, but other people have. There's

00:54:30.289 --> 00:54:33.489
still, if you sum it all up, there's, that sounds

00:54:33.489 --> 00:54:38.409
like quite a lot more than you would expect to

00:54:38.409 --> 00:54:43.030
get from a doll in a, just in a house. So weird.

00:54:43.510 --> 00:54:48.130
Yeah. So I normally don't share this story, but

00:54:48.130 --> 00:54:50.510
I'm gonna share it with you guys anyway. Welcome

00:54:50.510 --> 00:54:58.130
in, come on. So I have ADHD and part of that

00:54:58.130 --> 00:55:01.349
is I zone out. So I will zone out and I'll stare

00:55:01.349 --> 00:55:03.409
into space. Now this could be for 10 minutes,

00:55:03.550 --> 00:55:06.150
10 minutes on the spot. My partner hates it,

00:55:06.150 --> 00:55:10.750
she'll be sat talking to me and I've gone. There

00:55:10.750 --> 00:55:14.989
was a moment where I was doing a session with

00:55:14.989 --> 00:55:18.900
Bob. and I had one of them zone out moments.

00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.719
I call, I say it's a zone out because the alternative

00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:28.760
is terrifying. Well, I zoned out, so this is

00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.639
on video, so this is a video that's coming out

00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:35.980
soon. But something, so when I'm zoned out, if

00:55:35.980 --> 00:55:38.800
a loud noise happens, I'll kind of like, huh,

00:55:38.900 --> 00:55:42.920
what was that? something scraped behind me and

00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.380
you can hear it clear as day as if somebody because

00:55:45.380 --> 00:55:47.800
it's old floorboards so as if somebody's foot's

00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:52.480
just gone across the floor and I didn't blink

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:56.099
I didn't move nothing I was just still staring

00:55:56.099 --> 00:56:01.780
at Bob all the way through it and to the point

00:56:01.780 --> 00:56:05.440
where I shouted Carl to come in during this days

00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:08.920
and didn't even remember shouting him to come

00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:12.889
in So he come in and I've just stood up not realizing

00:56:12.889 --> 00:56:15.090
it's there and then just started like, oh, yeah,

00:56:15.809 --> 00:56:18.849
no, no, it's happened. I've just been sat here

00:56:18.849 --> 00:56:22.110
talking about it. It was just, you know, the

00:56:22.110 --> 00:56:25.409
reason I don't share that normally is because.

00:56:28.210 --> 00:56:31.449
Not because it's scary, because, you know, it's

00:56:31.449 --> 00:56:34.550
a genuine thing that I have, like it's something

00:56:34.550 --> 00:56:39.820
that I have to deal with every day. But. It was

00:56:39.820 --> 00:56:45.099
just, the timing was very strange. It's never

00:56:45.099 --> 00:56:48.219
happened during an investigation before. It normally

00:56:48.219 --> 00:56:51.159
happens when I'm sat watching TV or when I'm

00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:53.099
working somewhere out and then I'll just go on

00:56:53.099 --> 00:56:55.019
out for a bit and then I'm back in the room.

00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.940
But it was the noise and the fact that I shouted

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:01.719
him in, didn't even know I'd shouted him in,

00:57:01.860 --> 00:57:03.880
that kinda were like, hang on a minute, like

00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:06.250
that's... Because I don't know that I don't talk

00:57:06.250 --> 00:57:10.309
enough thing like I just saw now, but I spoke

00:57:10.309 --> 00:57:15.690
during it. Obviously, Carl looked back at that

00:57:15.690 --> 00:57:17.230
footage for me because I was just kind of like,

00:57:17.230 --> 00:57:19.289
I don't really want to see this, mate. Like,

00:57:19.449 --> 00:57:21.989
you know, I've I've looked back at it now, but

00:57:21.989 --> 00:57:26.789
it terrified him. You know, he knows me very

00:57:26.789 --> 00:57:29.860
well. He's so he's been my. cameraman, so to

00:57:29.860 --> 00:57:32.860
say, since way back when I was doing music. So

00:57:32.860 --> 00:57:36.940
he's filmed with me for a long time. Um, and

00:57:36.940 --> 00:57:45.239
it, that's, it was very scary moment. Thanks

00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:49.320
for, uh, sharing. That's, um, yeah, quite an

00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:50.960
interesting one. That's a different kind of experience.

00:57:50.980 --> 00:57:54.599
And they usually hear, um, people talk about,

00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:59.800
um, for what over it's kind of. anything like

00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.099
what's sort of like the best sort of thing you

00:58:02.099 --> 00:58:04.579
captured or anything like kind of anywhere you've

00:58:04.579 --> 00:58:07.559
done any investigations kind of your sort of

00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:14.900
best evidence. Okay, so I'm going to say this

00:58:14.900 --> 00:58:18.880
one just because I found it fun more than anything.

00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:23.760
So I went to Priest Cottage last Tuesday just

00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:28.409
gone. So last Tuesday and I tried the Hartley

00:58:28.409 --> 00:58:31.190
method for the first ever time. I was trying

00:58:31.190 --> 00:58:34.010
this Hartley method. Now, of course, because

00:58:34.010 --> 00:58:36.710
I'm the one that's kind of like, yeah, what's

00:58:36.710 --> 00:58:39.670
this about? I put myself under it because what

00:58:39.670 --> 00:58:44.090
better way than to experience it? But so Carl

00:58:44.090 --> 00:58:45.690
had asked me a question. So the question that

00:58:45.690 --> 00:58:50.570
he asked me was, was that you that rang the Envirobell

00:58:50.570 --> 00:58:54.849
in the other room? Now, as that's happened, I've

00:58:54.849 --> 00:58:59.280
pressed yes. um whether that was i'm going to

00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.300
whatever it might have been to make that happen

00:59:01.300 --> 00:59:05.780
it happened but i'll cue as i've done that the

00:59:05.780 --> 00:59:09.420
environmental goes off again um that's probably

00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:12.500
one of the coolest moments i've captured on camera

00:59:12.500 --> 00:59:14.159
because it's kind of been like one of them where

00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:17.559
i've gone yeah that that makes for a really good

00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.119
view like people are going to watch that and

00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:23.079
go oh wow that just happened um you know because

00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:26.940
i'm i'm you know i am very aware that when we're

00:59:26.940 --> 00:59:30.340
creating these videos, they do have to be watchable.

00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:33.260
You know, we can't just talk to a wall for an

00:59:33.260 --> 00:59:36.300
hour and a half and someone watch it. So for

00:59:36.300 --> 00:59:38.519
us, it would be very like, yes, we've got something

00:59:38.519 --> 00:59:42.420
cool that we can put in a video. And I mean,

00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.619
you'll see that within the next two weeks because

00:59:44.619 --> 00:59:46.719
that's coming out. That's my next video that's

00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:48.940
coming out. So yeah, that's probably my favorite

00:59:48.940 --> 00:59:52.639
thing we've captured. um because they just want

00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.380
to explain the Harley method because we know

00:59:54.380 --> 00:59:56.019
what it is but the listeners might not have heard

00:59:56.019 --> 00:59:59.820
of because it is a very new uh kind of uh yeah

00:59:59.820 --> 01:00:02.139
i'll give it my best shot if when you watch my

01:00:02.139 --> 01:00:05.659
video yeah i butchered it but um it's it's it's

01:00:05.659 --> 01:00:06.960
like it's like a little traffic light so red

01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:10.280
and green you've got your yes or no um the person

01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:14.380
that is um asking the questions They might spin

01:00:14.380 --> 01:00:17.019
it around whilst you're blindfolded and you've

01:00:17.019 --> 01:00:19.239
got ear defenders on and earplugs in under your

01:00:19.239 --> 01:00:21.599
ear defenders. So it's working off. It's kind

01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:26.699
of works of sensory deprivation. And guys, jump

01:00:26.699 --> 01:00:30.699
in if I get this wrong. I believe that it's believed

01:00:30.699 --> 01:00:33.980
that because you can't hear and see that they

01:00:33.980 --> 01:00:37.449
can use you to press the button. to answer yes

01:00:37.449 --> 01:00:41.150
or no um but they don't just ask you like they're

01:00:41.150 --> 01:00:42.570
not going to shout it they're going to whisper

01:00:42.570 --> 01:00:45.150
it so you can't hear them they might show you

01:00:45.150 --> 01:00:47.530
some flashcards with a triangle on it is that

01:00:47.530 --> 01:00:51.250
a circle and see what comes through uh which

01:00:51.250 --> 01:00:54.110
surprisingly we're very accurate which is a bit

01:00:54.110 --> 01:00:59.050
weird um but yeah that um if if you've got a

01:00:59.050 --> 01:01:02.010
better explanation please give it but that that's

01:01:02.010 --> 01:01:06.389
kind of what the gist i got of it Yeah, that's

01:01:06.389 --> 01:01:09.409
pretty much my understanding of it haven't haven't

01:01:09.409 --> 01:01:13.170
done it although priest cottage is Is a location

01:01:13.170 --> 01:01:16.010
that we've probably been to more than than any

01:01:16.010 --> 01:01:18.190
other I think I've been like six or seven times

01:01:18.190 --> 01:01:21.829
now It's only been open just over here We were

01:01:21.829 --> 01:01:24.050
in there in like right in the first couple of

01:01:24.050 --> 01:01:27.250
weeks we booked straight in we're one of the

01:01:27.250 --> 01:01:31.889
first names on the wall Yeah, we had the whole

01:01:31.889 --> 01:01:35.670
place to ourselves just me and you Is um, but

01:01:35.670 --> 01:01:40.389
we've actually captured one of The weirdest things

01:01:40.389 --> 01:01:43.369
that we've ever captured was captured at priest

01:01:43.369 --> 01:01:46.690
cottage as well so we were we we live stream

01:01:46.690 --> 01:01:49.349
all the time with the girls and we got the twins

01:01:49.349 --> 01:01:53.289
and Everywhere we go we live stream all the time.

01:01:53.329 --> 01:01:56.030
So we went to priest cottage of four of us and

01:01:56.030 --> 01:02:00.789
we we said right we're going to not live stream

01:02:00.789 --> 01:02:03.539
to begin with we're gonna Get a feel for the

01:02:03.539 --> 01:02:06.380
place because it's it's a cool place and especially

01:02:06.380 --> 01:02:08.860
if you sort of Take a few minutes to actually

01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:11.320
have a look sort of look around is it's quite

01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:15.239
a They've done it really nice. It looks really

01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:19.980
cool in there and We were like first of all we

01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:21.960
go in there usually we get all the phones out

01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.519
we get all the bits of equipment out and we just

01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:27.119
start live streaming and then that's us for like

01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:31.400
four hours at priest cottage and Then we're tired.

01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:33.559
We'll have a cup of tea and then we go home.

01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.800
So it's like, okay, we're gonna First of all,

01:02:36.900 --> 01:02:38.639
we're gonna we're gonna sit around the table

01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.900
in that the main sort of living room living room

01:02:41.900 --> 01:02:45.360
that's the main room at the bottom in them and

01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:50.139
We Sarah got some crystals out and she'd Arranged

01:02:50.139 --> 01:02:52.780
the crystals in a pattern on the table. We we

01:02:52.780 --> 01:02:55.179
turned the lights down We only had one camera

01:02:55.179 --> 01:02:59.039
like a night vision camera pointing at us We

01:02:59.039 --> 01:03:02.659
held hands and we were calling out and getting

01:03:02.659 --> 01:03:08.280
into the zone essentially. And then we heard

01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.940
some noises above us, some banging noises. And

01:03:11.940 --> 01:03:16.420
then after a short time, something laughed at

01:03:16.420 --> 01:03:24.039
us. And we caught it on camera. Rhianna and the

01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.340
girls caught it on the priest cottage camera

01:03:26.340 --> 01:03:32.280
as well. Wow and It was proper. It was like we

01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:36.420
sort of like with I freaked out I was like what

01:03:36.420 --> 01:03:39.719
the fuck was that and then we luckily because

01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.440
we'd got We'd got the laptops with us. We'd got

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.860
memory card readers We took the memory card out

01:03:45.860 --> 01:03:48.780
of the camera with like looked at it there and

01:03:48.780 --> 01:03:52.719
then filmed every like a shoulder and we called

01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:56.579
it on capture and it was the weirdest thing that

01:03:56.579 --> 01:03:58.820
night was proper weird as well wasn't it the

01:03:58.820 --> 01:04:01.179
girls had loads of stuff we had loads of stuff

01:04:01.179 --> 01:04:06.119
it was very very strange night and all because

01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:10.579
we we feel that we went really calm at the start

01:04:10.579 --> 01:04:14.179
and we didn't just go full blast with live streaming

01:04:14.179 --> 01:04:18.840
and recording and yeah we we had candles and

01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:24.199
all sorts but um but the weirdest thing was that

01:04:24.909 --> 01:04:29.010
I put the memory card and the memory card sort

01:04:29.010 --> 01:04:33.050
of reader thing in my I've got a red rucksack.

01:04:33.050 --> 01:04:36.750
I take it everywhere So I put it. Yeah on the

01:04:36.750 --> 01:04:40.750
way home Sarah was like You got the memory card

01:04:40.750 --> 01:04:42.670
didn't you from the camera? I was like, yeah.

01:04:42.670 --> 01:04:45.949
Yeah camera. I've got the memory card I Come

01:04:45.949 --> 01:04:48.030
find it in my bag. I said it must be in the back

01:04:48.030 --> 01:04:49.789
of the car somewhere. It's gotta be in the back

01:04:49.789 --> 01:04:55.519
of the car somewhere right and then Wasn't obviously

01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:58.039
I was in the dog house because I'd lost a memory

01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:03.659
card with exceptional footage on it fuck so Message

01:05:03.659 --> 01:05:06.039
Rhiannon said can you have a look see if the

01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:08.559
memory cards there? So she's in the living room

01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:13.400
tidying up and She said can't find it Initially

01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.619
then a couple of minutes later. She said all

01:05:15.619 --> 01:05:18.500
of a sudden She heard a small noise on the side

01:05:18.500 --> 01:05:23.199
and the fucking memory card was there So whether

01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:27.679
or not whether or not i mean i'm not saying that's

01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:31.280
paranormal that is fucking weird that i swear

01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:34.400
i put it in the bag my rucksack is it got it's

01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:38.239
deep it's like if i put something in there it

01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.119
usually stays in there except for this fucking

01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:46.780
memory card anyway um and yeah and then she's

01:05:46.780 --> 01:05:49.760
tidying up and then it appears after she's tidied

01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:52.679
Which is weird and it's also got America back.

01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:56.800
Yeah, but It's just like it was a proper proper

01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:59.360
way in the dark was horrible. We all heard all

01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:02.940
four of us heard it clear as day. It was horrid

01:06:02.940 --> 01:06:05.539
So priest cottage is a great place. It's a great

01:06:05.539 --> 01:06:10.619
place Yeah, the fact you got that like You've

01:06:10.619 --> 01:06:13.719
got it on camera as well. I won't one of them

01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:17.380
moments. I need one of them moments But what

01:06:17.380 --> 01:06:19.920
you've just said is, you know, I'm kind of calling

01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:22.179
myself out here a little bit, but what I think

01:06:22.179 --> 01:06:29.360
one of our biggest problems is we go, you know,

01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:31.840
again, we are, we're new to it. So we go into

01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.000
a lot of these locations with expectations. We

01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:38.639
go into a lot of these locations and we are overly

01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:41.400
excited when we get there and we're expecting

01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:45.400
so much to happen. And I don't think we have

01:06:46.289 --> 01:06:50.630
settled into that, into how investigations go

01:06:50.630 --> 01:06:54.670
yet. I think because so much has happened since

01:06:54.670 --> 01:06:57.789
we started, and it's just been 100 mile an hour,

01:06:57.789 --> 01:06:59.769
we've not had a chance to actually settle and

01:06:59.769 --> 01:07:02.269
just be like, let's do it. Because at the core,

01:07:03.070 --> 01:07:05.250
forget about the building, forget about everything

01:07:05.250 --> 01:07:08.809
else. At the core, we do this because we enjoy

01:07:08.809 --> 01:07:13.199
doing it. So kind of what you guys, what you've

01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:14.980
just said then about the, you know, you guys

01:07:14.980 --> 01:07:17.900
were calm and it's just kind of pinged off in

01:07:17.900 --> 01:07:19.760
my head that like, hang on a minute, that's something

01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.860
we don't really do. We go in there with frantically

01:07:22.860 --> 01:07:25.380
setting up and we are, have you got this? Have

01:07:25.380 --> 01:07:27.800
you got that? And it's just a hundred mile an

01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:30.139
hour from start. Oh, we're usually a hundred

01:07:30.139 --> 01:07:32.320
mile an hour at start and we're usually just

01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:34.579
Walking around trying to set things up. Right.

01:07:34.659 --> 01:07:37.099
We're gonna go in here first. We'll signal shit

01:07:37.099 --> 01:07:40.340
Let's try and get on some Wi -Fi somewhere. Let's

01:07:40.340 --> 01:07:43.139
let's do all this. It's usually chaos to be fair

01:07:43.139 --> 01:07:48.320
it is and it's it's exciting to get to a new

01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:52.820
location most definitely and Yeah, like we we're

01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:55.519
me and ash are now in our sixth year doing this

01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:57.980
so we've been to loads of places and there's

01:07:57.980 --> 01:08:00.940
still certain places that are just freaky as

01:08:00.940 --> 01:08:06.679
and like a lot of them are outdoors now because

01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:10.239
of the uncertainty of outdoors but the house

01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.360
of cries i know is was one of ash's sort of favorite

01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:16.680
places uh priest cottage we've been to tons of

01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.710
times we used to go to my haunted hotel back

01:08:19.710 --> 01:08:22.170
in the day or back in the day yeah two or three

01:08:22.170 --> 01:08:29.829
years ago um so it's it's good to have that excitement

01:08:29.829 --> 01:08:32.850
i think that pumps you up a bit because you can

01:08:32.850 --> 01:08:36.729
go to places and if you're not feeling it it's

01:08:36.729 --> 01:08:41.489
just going to be a tough night and yeah so it's

01:08:41.489 --> 01:08:44.390
good it's good to have that that energy for definite

01:08:44.390 --> 01:08:48.590
for definite Yeah, I think we just need to learn

01:08:48.590 --> 01:08:54.729
to control it, if that makes sense. Definitely.

01:08:54.970 --> 01:08:56.630
So do you want to talk about some of the other

01:08:56.630 --> 01:09:00.609
stuff you've got going on and coming up with

01:09:00.609 --> 01:09:03.329
the vicarage and the other stuff? So where do

01:09:03.329 --> 01:09:09.569
we start? So one of the big ones that we have

01:09:09.569 --> 01:09:12.850
coming out, I think we're planning on it for

01:09:12.850 --> 01:09:16.760
the end of this year. we will be releasing the

01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:22.319
first episode to our own podcast. So, like I

01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:24.260
told you guys before, obviously I used to do

01:09:24.260 --> 01:09:26.659
a podcast. It was called the Chat Down podcast.

01:09:27.899 --> 01:09:30.220
We were just goofing around, messing about, catching

01:09:30.220 --> 01:09:34.699
up. But because we have the space in that building

01:09:34.699 --> 01:09:37.399
to do so, we have a back room that we're turning

01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:41.470
into a studio. And what we're going to be offering

01:09:41.470 --> 01:09:43.989
is guests to come and be on the podcast, and

01:09:43.989 --> 01:09:47.409
then they'll get a free investigation at their

01:09:47.409 --> 01:09:50.310
location, just so because we understand sometimes,

01:09:50.310 --> 01:09:53.489
you know, when I put that post out, the first

01:09:53.489 --> 01:09:55.350
thing I say is, well, it needs to be remote because

01:09:55.350 --> 01:09:59.069
traveling is difficult. But given that additional

01:09:59.069 --> 01:10:02.050
incentive, it's kind of like, yes, you know,

01:10:02.090 --> 01:10:03.529
you will sit down for an hour and a half, but

01:10:03.529 --> 01:10:08.319
then you've got the building all night. Whenever

01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:15.220
you want. If you come in with the girls, they've

01:10:15.220 --> 01:10:19.659
just received a free code, so come along with

01:10:19.659 --> 01:10:23.880
them. Fucking hell, yeah, definitely. Yeah. So

01:10:23.880 --> 01:10:27.539
I know that, obviously, I know you guys, you've

01:10:27.539 --> 01:10:31.840
heard, you know Carl, heard of Carl. He's always

01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:37.609
spoke very highly of the twins, so. it was only

01:10:37.609 --> 01:10:41.229
right that they were the only group that we couldn't

01:10:41.229 --> 01:10:43.970
pin down and get into the Vicarage early doors,

01:10:44.489 --> 01:10:46.170
because we were trying to get as many YouTubers

01:10:46.170 --> 01:10:49.270
in as we could. Instead of putting his money

01:10:49.270 --> 01:10:52.489
on Google ads, let's get these free promotions.

01:10:52.590 --> 01:10:54.449
Let's get them in. They were the only group we

01:10:54.449 --> 01:11:00.430
didn't get in. So we sent them a free code. So

01:11:00.430 --> 01:11:02.409
I'm pretty sure they'll be coming along at some

01:11:02.409 --> 01:11:05.159
point. It'll have to be 2027 because we've got

01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:10.720
no dates left in 2027 with them. Definitely,

01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:15.619
I'm up for that. What else do we have? So we've

01:11:15.619 --> 01:11:20.619
got a clothing brand that's coming soon. Now,

01:11:21.060 --> 01:11:25.680
we're not just doing merch. I didn't want to

01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:27.819
just, I know it's weird to say that I'm wearing

01:11:27.819 --> 01:11:29.939
one, but we didn't want to just stick a logo

01:11:29.939 --> 01:11:33.659
on a jumper. and sell it. Something I've always

01:11:33.659 --> 01:11:38.399
wanted to do is create a movement around people

01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:41.640
doing things for themselves and not other people.

01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:45.279
I'm a very big believer in if if you can dream

01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.760
big, you can achieve big. So the brand is going

01:11:48.760 --> 01:11:52.359
to be called Ethra. And that is what that's going

01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:54.680
to be. That's what it's all going to be about

01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:58.359
is people that want to achieve more are going

01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:02.899
to wear more in a way. So yeah, there's a whole

01:12:02.899 --> 01:12:04.699
load of stuff that's going to come with that.

01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:07.060
I'm really, really looking forward to launching

01:12:07.060 --> 01:12:12.779
that. We have Haunted. Is it Haunting or Haunted?

01:12:12.939 --> 01:12:15.560
I can't remember which one it is. Haunting Histories

01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:18.520
coming, which is kind of the other side of my

01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:21.819
enjoyment with this. So the history side of it.

01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.579
we know interests a lot of people. So one of

01:12:25.579 --> 01:12:27.739
the things we're doing is creating a show. It's

01:12:27.739 --> 01:12:30.039
just going to be a sit down audio only show.

01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:33.020
People can put it on in the background. And it's

01:12:33.020 --> 01:12:35.680
just going from the through the whole history

01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.880
of locations that we've investigated. And obviously,

01:12:38.899 --> 01:12:40.760
the first one is going to be about the auto vicarage

01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:42.960
because it would not make sense it being anywhere

01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:49.640
else. Apart from that, it's just getting out

01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:55.050
more. um establishing ourselves more as investigators

01:12:55.050 --> 01:12:59.229
and you know getting us working more on the channel

01:12:59.229 --> 01:13:01.590
and we're changing the way that we're filming

01:13:01.590 --> 01:13:06.310
things um there's a lot of different changes

01:13:06.310 --> 01:13:08.869
that are coming that we've learned over the last

01:13:08.869 --> 01:13:13.989
couple of months i think so we from february

01:13:13.989 --> 01:13:17.029
till now so i think it's six or seven videos

01:13:17.029 --> 01:13:20.689
i might be a bit off by one or two, six or seven

01:13:20.689 --> 01:13:27.609
videos and we have watched easily over 50 teams

01:13:27.609 --> 01:13:30.729
investigate that building now and we learn something

01:13:30.729 --> 01:13:35.069
new every time spoken to lots of different people

01:13:35.069 --> 01:13:37.930
that film videos and content watched a lot of

01:13:37.930 --> 01:13:41.130
different content so we're kind of at that stage

01:13:41.130 --> 01:13:44.489
now where it's like okay We're known for the

01:13:44.489 --> 01:13:46.989
old Vicarage. People know who we are now at least

01:13:46.989 --> 01:13:50.029
because of the old Vicarage. Let's try and get

01:13:50.029 --> 01:13:54.470
it so that now people know us for us. They know

01:13:54.470 --> 01:13:58.109
me as Scott. They know Carl as Carl from the

01:13:58.109 --> 01:14:00.590
Daily Detour of Carl Paranormal Wolves. They

01:14:00.590 --> 01:14:04.430
know who we are. You know, because there is people

01:14:04.430 --> 01:14:08.989
behind the buildings. And then ultimately just

01:14:08.989 --> 01:14:11.369
make the Vicarage as good as we can and as inviting

01:14:11.369 --> 01:14:14.220
as we can. uh we've taken a lot of inspiration

01:14:14.220 --> 01:14:17.539
from so the the priest cottage is actually my

01:14:17.539 --> 01:14:21.180
one of my favorite places that i've seen um and

01:14:21.180 --> 01:14:24.439
the reason for that is because i didn't know

01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:27.600
you could make a building feel so welcoming welcoming

01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:33.279
without even being in the building and just little

01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:36.699
touches that they've done has inspired us to

01:14:36.699 --> 01:14:39.699
do more like down to the signing on the wall

01:14:39.699 --> 01:14:44.289
we've now got a wall that's purposely for that

01:14:44.289 --> 01:14:51.170
but we've made it our own by making it a centrepiece

01:14:51.170 --> 01:14:54.210
of the museum so instead of it just being anything

01:14:54.210 --> 01:14:56.689
that is going to be it's going to be lit up from

01:14:56.689 --> 01:14:59.390
all sides and people that visit are going to

01:14:59.390 --> 01:15:02.609
be a permanent part of that museum so they are

01:15:02.609 --> 01:15:06.250
going to be the attraction to the building so

01:15:06.250 --> 01:15:12.350
to say but yeah apart from that Hopefully have

01:15:12.350 --> 01:15:15.170
a full night's sleep. That'd be a nice start.

01:15:18.109 --> 01:15:21.090
It just sounds like you are a hundred miles an

01:15:21.090 --> 01:15:26.409
hour. Yeah. I've got three kids in the full -time

01:15:26.409 --> 01:15:32.789
job and also I don't know how to slow down. It

01:15:32.789 --> 01:15:36.229
gets to a point where the paranormal sort of

01:15:36.229 --> 01:15:40.289
takes over. I know me and Ash, we talk about

01:15:40.289 --> 01:15:42.729
it. all the time we've got a group chat we're

01:15:42.729 --> 01:15:44.890
constantly talking about the paranormal there's

01:15:44.890 --> 01:15:47.529
the four of us in this group chat and you would

01:15:47.529 --> 01:15:51.149
think that we do nothing else um we like we've

01:15:51.149 --> 01:15:54.609
got jobs we're just there's messages going down

01:15:54.609 --> 01:15:56.729
all day and i'm like i can't listen to the message

01:15:56.729 --> 01:15:58.270
i've got to do this i'm not supposed to have

01:15:58.270 --> 01:16:03.609
my phone um yeah it becomes all consuming at

01:16:03.609 --> 01:16:10.609
times but yeah it's mad because Prior to doing

01:16:10.609 --> 01:16:15.189
the paranormal I used to just sit and watch TV

01:16:15.189 --> 01:16:18.770
and go to bed and get up, go to work, come home,

01:16:19.090 --> 01:16:23.949
have dinner, tea for you light up north, do it

01:16:23.949 --> 01:16:28.289
in front of the TV and then go to bed. But now,

01:16:28.890 --> 01:16:32.890
like, we got the podcast Ash has got his UFO

01:16:32.890 --> 01:16:38.159
stuff. We're planning stuff with the girls. We're

01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:40.119
planning what we're doing with the podcast. We're

01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:42.079
trying to push social media. We're trying new

01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:44.659
locations. Like where are we going to go next?

01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:48.180
We've done a talk this year. Me and Ash have

01:16:48.180 --> 01:16:52.920
been to like Wales talking all over. Spook and

01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:55.520
Spirits last week we talked. We're talking next

01:16:55.520 --> 01:17:01.880
month at ParaChat. We talked in Birmingham. We've

01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:06.039
talked all over about the stuff that we research.

01:17:06.890 --> 01:17:10.409
what stuff we've noticed, and we talk to all

01:17:10.409 --> 01:17:15.609
these people from around the world about books

01:17:15.609 --> 01:17:19.329
they've written, films they're making, and it's

01:17:19.329 --> 01:17:25.189
just this beast of a thing. You're going to be

01:17:25.189 --> 01:17:33.800
sucked in over the years. I sometimes sit there

01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:35.380
and I'm at work and I'm thinking, I ain't got

01:17:35.380 --> 01:17:39.560
fucking time to be working. I've got this website

01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:42.579
thing that we're trying to do. We're trying to

01:17:42.579 --> 01:17:44.699
do this. We've got this to do. We've got this

01:17:44.699 --> 01:17:47.939
to do. I've got to edit the next. I've got last

01:17:47.939 --> 01:17:51.680
week's interview to edit. I've got this interview

01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:54.239
to prep for and then, right, when am I going

01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:57.119
to edit this? And then we've got videos that

01:17:57.119 --> 01:18:00.600
we filmed weeks ago that we're putting together.

01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:04.079
it's like right when we get the next live stream

01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:07.600
and oh my god and then we're up and down the

01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:11.619
country i live down in the south ash is in manchester

01:18:11.619 --> 01:18:16.119
um emma's in manchester sarah's in crew so we're

01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:17.699
everybody's up north so we're going backwards

01:18:17.699 --> 01:18:20.760
then you guys like ash comes down here we have

01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:23.220
the weekend in oxford here going to places up

01:18:23.220 --> 01:18:27.199
north going to places and it's just it's just

01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:29.560
insane and everything becomes the paranormal

01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:33.630
everything yeah everything you will do from now

01:18:33.630 --> 01:18:36.289
on will be paranormal it's mad it's absolutely

01:18:36.289 --> 01:18:40.930
mad so um i wish you all the very best because

01:18:40.930 --> 01:18:43.850
i know what it's like certainly from the early

01:18:43.850 --> 01:18:45.909
days and like you said you've learned so much

01:18:45.909 --> 01:18:49.489
in a few months we we've been like that that

01:18:49.489 --> 01:18:52.170
first year or so two years of the podcast we

01:18:52.170 --> 01:18:56.270
were like oh we could do this a bit different

01:18:56.270 --> 01:18:59.489
we do this bit different and then we're slowly

01:18:59.489 --> 01:19:02.689
sort of Coming up and even now we like how we

01:19:02.689 --> 01:19:04.750
could do this. We should do this. We're doing

01:19:04.750 --> 01:19:09.670
news with the podcast. So Where can people find

01:19:09.670 --> 01:19:14.470
you? Tell us that Okay, so we are literally the

01:19:14.470 --> 01:19:19.310
daily detail paranormal on everything So but

01:19:19.310 --> 01:19:21.590
we were very lucky that we could get it across

01:19:21.590 --> 01:19:26.109
every platform and We do have a website. So the

01:19:26.109 --> 01:19:29.210
daily detail paranormal dot -co dot -uk. That's

01:19:29.210 --> 01:19:32.300
where you can find deep dives into the history

01:19:32.300 --> 01:19:34.399
of the building that we run. You can find all

01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:36.460
of those videos. You can also find them on YouTube.

01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:39.800
Please find them on YouTube. You know, you can,

01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:42.100
there's so much on that website. That's where

01:19:42.100 --> 01:19:44.539
you do all the bookings for the Vicarage and

01:19:44.539 --> 01:19:50.239
the 2027 dates are now available. And just quickly

01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:52.939
to point out, there is some tickets on there

01:19:52.939 --> 01:19:55.640
and that are a little bit more expensive than

01:19:55.640 --> 01:20:00.880
our general tickets. However, these are for mind

01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:04.699
the charity. So we are donating the entirety

01:20:04.699 --> 01:20:09.600
of July's investigations. The money from them

01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:11.800
investigations will all be going towards mind

01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:16.140
rather than coming to us. So, yeah, if you're

01:20:16.140 --> 01:20:18.119
going to book, if anybody that's listening to

01:20:18.119 --> 01:20:21.180
this is going to book a ticket, please, if you

01:20:21.180 --> 01:20:25.930
can. Don't worry about us book the tickets that

01:20:25.930 --> 01:20:28.130
are for the charity because we would much prefer

01:20:28.130 --> 01:20:32.029
to fill them spaces first Before you start filling

01:20:32.029 --> 01:20:34.949
the other ones It's mad that you should say that's

01:20:34.949 --> 01:20:37.170
great charity, by the way, because it was actually

01:20:37.170 --> 01:20:43.810
last July that we did A month for charity and

01:20:43.810 --> 01:20:48.260
for mine for mind and that was July so that's

01:20:48.260 --> 01:20:50.960
that's quite bad so but yeah it's it's a great

01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:53.460
charity so yeah everybody if you're going to

01:20:53.460 --> 01:20:59.479
book book july next year yeah yeah we don't even

01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:01.720
know i'm doing next week at the moment but no

01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:06.100
that's well well worth um booking on just for

01:21:06.100 --> 01:21:08.439
the mind if nothing else so but yeah we'll put

01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:11.039
all the links if anybody's interested we'll put

01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:15.640
all the links in the show notes We'll share any

01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:17.939
posts out about, particularly about the mine

01:21:17.939 --> 01:21:20.880
stuff, that's great. It's a charity that we've

01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:23.720
both pushed in the past. So Scott, thank you

01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:25.939
so much for your time tonight. It's been an absolute

01:21:25.939 --> 01:21:32.939
blast. The time has flown by. And I look forward

01:21:32.939 --> 01:21:35.319
to speaking to you again, if not on the podcast,

01:21:35.420 --> 01:21:39.699
but when we eventually can come up to get into

01:21:39.699 --> 01:21:42.949
the old Vicarage. But that sounds amazing. Definitely.

01:21:43.409 --> 01:21:46.770
Yeah, well, thank you both for obviously having

01:21:46.770 --> 01:21:49.489
us on. We are new, so it's kind of surreal meeting

01:21:49.489 --> 01:21:52.510
all these new people. So thank you again. And

01:21:52.510 --> 01:21:56.350
just a bit of a thank you from me to you guys.

01:21:56.850 --> 01:22:00.350
You are more than welcome to come up to the Vicarage

01:22:00.350 --> 01:22:02.510
whenever you want. Just message me. We'll sort

01:22:02.510 --> 01:22:05.609
some out. And I would love to have you guys on

01:22:05.609 --> 01:22:08.350
the podcast when we do eventually run it and

01:22:08.350 --> 01:22:12.619
then we can... I can dig into your guys brains

01:22:12.619 --> 01:22:17.039
for a bit instead I'll tell you what I'm up for

01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:21.479
that. I'm up for that Thank you so much. Appreciate

01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:23.060
that. Thank you. Thank you