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Demons, UFOs & Alien Abductions: Are They the Same Phenomenon? | Nathaniel Gillis Interview

Published on: 31st May, 2021

👹 Are demons always evil? Or could they be something far stranger? In Episode 27 of Pursuit of the Paranormal, Greg and Ash are joined by Nathaniel Gillis, religious demonologist, author, and founder of Preternatural Epiphenomenal Philosophy.After living in a haunted house as a child, Nathaniel spent over 20 years researching the entities he encountered. His groundbreaking theories suggest that alien abductions and thousands of years of demonic encounters may, in fact, be the same phenomenon.We discuss:


  • The true nature of demons — beyond good and evil
  • Parallels between UFO abductions and ancient demonic lore
  • The possibility that demons and aliens are one and the same
  • High strangeness and why “they’re playing a different game”
  • How this changes our understanding of hauntings, UFOs, and paranormal contact






📚 Books by Nathaniel Gillis:📲 Follow Nathaniel Gillis:—👻 Website: www.pursuitoftheparanormal.co.uk📷 Instagram: @pursuitoftheparanormal📲 TikTok: @PursuitParanormal💬 Email: podcast@pursuitoftheparanormal.co.ukKeywords: Demons and UFOs, alien abduction demonic connection, Nathaniel Gillis, religious demonologist, haunted house experiences, high strangeness, Preternatural Epiphenomenal Philosophy, paranormal podcast, Pursuit of the Paranormal, Greg Thomlinson, Ash Ellis


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